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Click to view govcon101's profile Mogul govcon101 22 posts since
Mar 24, 2009
30. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 24, 2009 7:40 PM
Hello all. My name is Ted Erlwein and I'm one of the instructors who helped write the material for the B2G Institute. Prior to that, I was, as I still am, a business development consultant helping small businesses with Government contracting. Yes, there are some good resources out there that are free but the level of help, by statute, they can give is limited. It is interesting to hear comments back and forth on Government contracting. It is sometimes a hard nut to crack and there are a lot of rules and regulations that apply. But we do not offer "get rich quick" information. What we give is basic information on a $500 billion market. That is what the Gov't awards in contracts each year. And let's talk facts and figures. In California since October 1, there have been $419.8 million in contract awards where there was only one offer received. So why didn't others compete? They didn't know how. That's all we do - give people specific information about this avenue of business growth. And, to give a pitch to the institue, we also have a day 1 guarantee - if you don't think the info is for you, you get a full refund at the end of the first day. No risk. So the commercial market is in the tank and the government spends and will spend a lot of money including billions from the Stimulus package. So is it a gamble to come? Sure! It's a gamble to get up in the morning. But I just wanted to give the "other side of the story". I'm a small business like everbody else and I see where the dollars are....and that's what I teach people to do. Google me, look me up, and feel free to respond. I believe in what I do and what I teach. Best to all, Ted
Click to view emsijo's profile Authority emsijo 15 posts since
Dec 3, 2008
31. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 25, 2009 7:32 AM
in response to: govcon101
There is no doubt that B2G provides a well developed educational experience with value. But their fee is what sets a small business back. My business is established and I could have afforded to invest in the seminar. There were so many things that they said they would teach you but when I read the fine print I learned that if you wanted anything more than the basics you had to spend far and above the initial fee. I found someone who would watch bids for me and help me write them on a regular basis. Yes, he charges a fee and yes he does take a very small percentage of the bid but he does a lot of the leg work for me. I do not have the time to do all of the things that B2G was preaching. I simply was not a good candidate.

Bid placing is not a get rich quick hobby but time consuming serious business. I felt bad for those people who walked out after the initial introductory seminar who did not have close to that amount of money to spend. I understand that you need to get people in the door in order to sell them but there should be some qualifiy questions asked of each person who is invited so that person does not waste their time on something they cannot afford.
Click to view Online_Design's profile Professional Online_Design 3 posts since
Mar 26, 2009
32. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 26, 2009 6:50 PM
in response to: govcon101
Hi Ted,

Thank you for representing the B2G Institute and speaking up for them in this Forum. I think we all appreciate the potential benefits of bidding on and receiving government contracts, but do you have anything more than "It is sometimes a hard nut to crack and there are a lot of rules and regulations that apply" in regards to advice.

Your program sounds interesting, but with the feedback from most regarding the tactics and phrasing used by your sales people and little information on what the Institute actually does, I'm inclined to go the "do it yourself" route using forums like this and networking with others that have gone through the process.

I have to admit that your www.yourgsapro.com website it quite informative.

Chris
Click to view govcon101's profile Mogul govcon101 22 posts since
Mar 24, 2009
33. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 27, 2009 12:35 AM
Chris and all - first of all, take care of the basics - get a DUNS number, do the Central Contractor Registration and the Online Representations and Certifications. That all can be done from the CCR website - www.ccr.gov. Search Fed Biz Ops by keyword in the advanced search (www.fbo.gov). Also understand that Contracting Officers and end users can do micropurchases under $3,000 directly with no competition. These are the first steps. Yes, everybody can go to my website that is referenced in the prior post and we've got a lot of info on there. We try to support the small business community in many ways - posting info, doing direct consulting, and participating in the B2G classes. As far as the fees, $3,500 may seem like a lot but the potential is out there. The first bid search service I bought as a consultant was $5k and it was a bust. As far as the guy doing the initial seminars, yeah, Fred's a salesman. But I look beyond all that and know the opportunity. OK, I'm in DC for a B2G class this weekend and it's 12:30am - gotta get some sleep.
Click to view Online_Design's profile Professional Online_Design 3 posts since
Mar 26, 2009
34. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 27, 2009 10:17 PM
in response to: govcon101
Thank you for your information and insight, its much appreciated!

Chris
Click to view PalenciaGirl's profile Professional PalenciaGirl 5 posts since
Mar 11, 2009
35. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 27, 2009 10:21 PM
in response to: govcon101
I am taking the course right now and it's great. I would HIGHLY recommend it to anyone wanting to do business with the government. These guys totally know their stuff and without this course you will be lost on trying to do it on your own. It's a lot to take in and you need experts help.
Click to view Online_Design's profile Professional Online_Design 3 posts since
Mar 26, 2009
36. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 27, 2009 10:26 PM
in response to: PalenciaGirl
Hi PalenciaGirl,

Wow, what a fantastic opportunity. Please give an example of something you are learning that you feel you would never have a clear understanding of trying to do it on your own.

Thanks in advance...!

Chris
Click to view PalenciaGirl's profile Professional PalenciaGirl 5 posts since
Mar 11, 2009
37. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 27, 2009 10:31 PM
in response to: Online_Design
All of it, honestly, this subject is such a bear that you can't possibly navigate it on your own and utilize all that is has and can offer you by doing it on your own. I thought about saving a few bucks and trying to figure it out on my own and had zero luck. The B2G guys know their stuff and have so many tips/tricks that they teach you. You have to understand that I am the biggest skeptic of things like this and tend to think of them as rip off acts, but this is legit.

I honestly feel that with this program knowledge under my belt and their assistance afterwards with their free mentor program I will be more than armed and set to go out there and get government contracts.
Click to view govcon101's profile Mogul govcon101 22 posts since
Mar 24, 2009
38. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 28, 2009 5:50 AM

On Day 1 for example, we spoke of the end of year money strategy since the gov't has to spend it or lose it. We discussed how Contracting Officers misapply NAICS codes. And we talked about the Dynamic Small Business Search page which is on www.ccr.gov. This is a place where Contracting Officers go to do Sources Sought. In this database, make sure you put a capability narrative and individual keywords. This database is reached from the last page inside your CCR registration.
Click to view JERZEYGIRL1's profile Professional JERZEYGIRL1 7 posts since
Mar 29, 2009
39. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 29, 2009 7:54 PM
were you able to hear anything about B2G? I also atteneded the free seminar this past week and am interested in hearing from anybody who has actually taken the course.
Click to view JERZEYGIRL1's profile Professional JERZEYGIRL1 7 posts since
Mar 29, 2009
40. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 29, 2009 7:58 PM
in response to: govcon101
how has your class been going? Are you happy with what you are beening taught?
Click to view JERZEYGIRL1's profile Professional JERZEYGIRL1 7 posts since
Mar 29, 2009
41. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 29, 2009 8:01 PM
in response to: govcon101
would you recommend the course? I'm considering taking in the beginning of April

Jane
Click to view PalenciaGirl's profile Professional PalenciaGirl 5 posts since
Mar 11, 2009
42. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 29, 2009 9:18 PM
in response to: JERZEYGIRL1
If you don't take their course you will not be able to do this on your own. It's not the sort of thing that you can successfully teach yourself. Sure, you can teach yourself some of it but it will be harder for you and a steeper learning curve. Is it expensive, sure it is, but the instructors are seasoned pros and have years of experience behind them that is valuable to you. Honestly, you can't do it on your own. I finished today and after three days still feel like I need some hand holding but there is no way, no possible chance I could have taught any of this to myself. They know little tricks that you need to know to be a star.

It's well, well, well worth the money. They do try to upsell you on items, and they are great items to be sold on if you have the additional funds, but if not, the basic course (not the workshop) will be a great start and with effort on your own after the course ends you will succeed. These guys are all great and you will really like them and want to learn from them. A few of the people I met at the course were talking and we all decided to form a weekly support group meeting to talk about our success and failures and learning curve now that we are out on our own doing this. It should help all of us!

Again, if you want to sell to the government without looking like an idiot you need to take some sort of course, if not the B2G course, then something. Reading a book is a good start, but there is so much to this subject you will not possibly learn it all yourself, unless you totally dedicate yourself to learning this and spend at least 5 hours a night working on it.
Click to view jz5168's profile Authority jz5168 11 posts since
Dec 22, 2008
43. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 29, 2009 9:25 PM
in response to: PalenciaGirl
For $3500, I have no doubt the class will provide some value. However, you keep saying you can't start without taking this class. Have you thought about other alternatives? What about other services provided by people who can hold your hand on your way to win the contract? Yes they charge for a steep fee, but I would prefer that to this class, because their commisssion is based on the actual win and therefore they have all the incentive to help you all the way. I found this a more attractive approach to simply taking a class.
Click to view PalenciaGirl's profile Professional PalenciaGirl 5 posts since
Mar 11, 2009
44. Re: Does anyone have any knowledge of the B2G Institute? Mar 29, 2009 9:46 PM
in response to: jz5168
Yeah, that is one way to do it but I wanted to learn for myself and to have an understanding of what was happening. Most people who "help" you end up doing it all for you and just charging you a hefty portion of the contract, if you win the contract. 100% you can do it this way and I likely will still enlist one of these persons to help me and hold my hand as they are likely cheaper than the upsell programs that B2G tries to sell to you after the program ends. We were told today that even if you miss something as minor as an inital on a bid your are disqualified, so having someone to watch over your final results is a great idea, someone who knows what they are doing. There is so much to it that I want to get some inital extra help with my bids and am meeting with someone tomorrow about this but I will know have a clue what happens and why it happens so I will not look totally green when talking to the government folks.
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