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Click to view literaryagent's profile Start-up literaryagent 1 posts since
Jul 14, 2008
15. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 14, 2008 4:58 PM
Interesting points. I have a hard time getting excited about bells and whistles on my site, which is very plain. It is personal contacts that matter, especially for me. Perhaps not conveying my unusual services well enough is a reason for simply giving up the web page.
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,101 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
16. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 14, 2008 6:04 PM
in response to: literaryagent
You bring up a great point!

About those bells and whistles, that's where I think we all get a little confused. I am talking about accurately conveying my brand (the personality of my agency) through the website. I want folks to have a good idea of who we are and what we are about after visiting the website, and I just haven't captured that yet. If done right, I can do this with or without "bells and whistles."

I always tell clients to have a concept behind their advertising. A concept is an insight that speaks to the target on an emotional level, it connects with them, it cuts through all the business speak, and translate the product benefit into a human being's need. I don't have that yet for my agency. I may be too close to see it.

Literary, what is the one thing you want visitors to your site to know, what makes you special? Find that and you will be excited about your site. It's finding your song and playing it for the world. There are plenty of other tunes but there is only one that is you. Then not only will you be excited but visitors to your site will be too.

Don't give up, just stop trying to force it - let it come to you.
Click to view snipperred's profile Mogul snipperred 147 posts since
Jun 11, 2008
17. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 14, 2008 6:39 PM
in response to: Iwrite
Hi Iwrite,

I just wanted to remind you I am impressed with your style!

I like to use the term "exceptional" in my own business. The competitve environment is changing the way people do business with people. Sounds to me like you are already tuned into the cutting-edge. I would be happy to share my work with you in private as my concept is still in research and development. I bet what you would find would reinforce your inspiration much like some of your comments on this thread have done for me. I believe I am setting an example for precisely what you are stating.
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,101 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
18. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 15, 2008 9:51 AM
in response to: snipperred
Snipperred,

Thank you.

Drop me a line: dereklw@mail.com
Click to view snipperred's profile Mogul snipperred 147 posts since
Jun 11, 2008
19. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 15, 2008 12:17 PM
in response to: Iwrite
Cooool,

So I just sent you the link and some notes.
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,101 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
20. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 15, 2008 12:39 PM
in response to: snipperred
To all,

I don't mind taking a conversation off forum. Feel free to email me but please don't email me about trying to buy something or adding me to a list. I am trying to get my agency going - I'm broke. LOL

I actively block and report spam.

Consider this a public service announcement.
Click to view snipperred's profile Mogul snipperred 147 posts since
Jun 11, 2008
21. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 15, 2008 2:15 PM
in response to: Iwrite
Thanks. I agree.

Hope my e-mail didn't get SPAMMED! There is one natural disadvantage to using a custom domain as your e-mail extension.

I recall there is a site you can go to see if you have been spammed. A lot of companies who rely on e-mail run into the problem when customers with unique domain extensions cannot send them e-mail. Customers may call as a courtesy to let you know "you" have a problem receiving their e-mail. It is tough to resolve the issue sometimes because clearing a name with respective e-mail hosts can be time consuming. Each one has to be contacted directly. I think the convention is to pass the buck back to them and tell them it is their responsibility to make sure they are not on any e-mail server blacklists.

From my own experience and customer service standpoint, the least I could do was check their e-mail against our own hosting filter. I would have liked to offer more, but you have to manage your time with priorities such as...clearing out all your unsolicited advertisements.
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,101 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
22. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 15, 2008 2:33 PM
in response to: snipperred
Try again. I haven't recieved anything as of yet. It might help if I gave oyu the right email address: dereklw@mail.com
Click to view snipperred's profile Mogul snipperred 147 posts since
Jun 11, 2008
23. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 15, 2008 2:46 PM
in response to: Iwrite
Thanks for letting me know. Just resent. Thanks for checking out my work. Hope you see all the ties in to what you have been sharing from your advertising/ marketing philosophies. Maybe some day we could work together.
Click to view snipperred's profile Mogul snipperred 147 posts since
Jun 11, 2008
24. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 17, 2008 11:37 AM
in response to: snipperred

Okee Dokee then Iwrite....

Did you get my message and get a chance to look in to what I'm doing? Or am I so extreme as to earn a no comment!

Regardless of what you think about my site. I think your marketing philosophy is spot on. This is the kind of transparency and documentary I am looking to build into my own concepts- that is thinking out loud about how you want to set up your site. "Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet." Is a perfect theme. And you are literally up close and personal with where you are coming from. You say maybe you are too close to see it. However, anyone who looks into this post is going to see it.

I assume most marketing firms intend to impress upon visitors the quality of end product. However, sometimes the underlying drawings and sketches that went into that final work are more interesting and revealing. Companies put out their vision and mission statements sometimes to connect with people. However, what of these things as they are just forming, are adapting and reflecting on the industry environment around them, and then customizing to align with the visions of potential clients and so on.

So what was that commercial..for Sprint I guess. The guy is walking down the street like any other guy and says in an intimate conversational tone- he's the new CEO for Sprint/ imagine a better world of services/ so i just did it/ pretty nice, huh? and then the commercial ends with his e-mail. I'm so tempted to try the e-mail. I just don't want to be dissapointed when the response I get is indirect. Rather, I'm kind of doing the same thing but am suggesting you really can get through to my personal e-mail- or the least a real person who represents me and who can forward to me if interesting enough.

I'm not suggesting self-glamorization like some sort of Zoolander, but finding a way to incorporate modern personal insight that genuinely connects rather than insults intelligence is so hot right now!
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,101 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
25. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 17, 2008 12:00 PM
in response to: snipperred
snipperred,

Don't take it personal!! I have been slammed trying to finish up a project. Look for a response a little later I hope.

Great observation and suggestion! I am not trying to impress as much as educate to what to expect when meeting and working with us. I am trying to capture and convey the "brand" for my agency. I in the research phase of the process, trying to discover what it is the brand stands for and how it relates to clients.

Let's see if I can explain it: Imagine being single (if you aren't), and standing in front of a full body mirror and you are looking at yourself trying to figure out who you are and what you are about because you are going to create a website to attract a future spouse. How easy would that be? And you only have 30 - 60 seconds to do it in, a the most. You only get one shot - what will you say? Who are you talking about? What does the person want to hear?

I do this all day, everyday for other people but to do it for myself is different - like a doctor treating himself/herself. Does this make sense?
Click to view snipperred's profile Mogul snipperred 147 posts since
Jun 11, 2008
26. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 17, 2008 12:18 PM
in response to: Iwrite
O.K. Thanks. So my message got through. I think you'll find I'm right there with you on this.

Conversely, I suppose my perspective from being happily married is that I would enjoy being able to look in that mirror, be myself, and communicate the best intimate message with "the one" so as to make the most of the moment. In my site, I'm focussed on a target market of people who are like me. I say it right from the beginning...this is not for everyone. It is for anyone who shares my personal ambitions and challenges. If you are fine living a boring life and not accomplishing anything amazing, then I've really not got much to say to you. So for relating to a target market- that is essentially a mirror image of me- I'm cutting through the animosity and engaging them directly.

No worries about commenting back if you don't have the time. I do welcome any news on what you think if you do look into it. I just wanted to make sure you could see my application of what I gather is your emerging vision for your firm. You may not be my intended audience, but I think you will find my marketing approach is right on line with what you are expressing. Should be inspirational.

I just added a home page draft. So select Intro Videos ALPHA if you look into the site.

Thanks!
Click to view rontowns25's profile Mogul rontowns25 76 posts since
Jun 24, 2008
27. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 17, 2008 1:03 PM
There are a couple things at play in regards to the question "Will people buy your product without any marketing effort"

The answer is Yes. Marketing merely increases the visibility of the product. Creative and strategic marketing also can pyschologically influence the consumer to thinking that a product can servce a void in somebody's life. Not to sound cliche, but apple does a great job with this. There commercials always show people dancing and having fun. After watching the commercial, you want to purchase an iPod so that you also can have fun and dance around your living room.

Marketing is a very powerful tool. The best form of marketing if word-of-mouth or free viral marketing via the internet. More solutions here... www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?RTA=web2
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,101 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
28. Re: Why my advertising agency does not have a website - yet. Jul 17, 2008 3:08 PM
in response to: rontowns25
I might have missed something but I don't think I asked the question: "Will people buy your product without any marketing effort?"

But since you did, here we go. I disagree, people will not buy your product - marketing includes package design and branding. Without those your product is in a simple container with a simple name, and the only way people might buy it is out of curiosity but the numbers will be low. We sometimes view marketing as advertising, they are not the same. Marketing is everything, including advertising, used to draw attention to a product, goods or services that are offered by a company.

Although word-of-mouth and viral is powerful, the numbers are not there to show that they can deliver like a fully integrated campaign. Because you have to reach people where they are and that is hard if they aren't on the site you want them on or they are watching tv or driving in their car or walking down the street. The internet is a great tool but it is still only one tool of many tools that a business should employ to reach potential customers.

Let the conversation begin anew!!
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