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What risks did you take to run your new business

Dec 16, 2007 2:03 PM

Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
Hello,

I am wondering what risk did you take to create and run your new business.

When we started our business in 2005, my wife and me took the risk to make an equity loan on our house, which give us the cash flow to start our business, buy our first stock, etc....

Please share with us, how you started your company.
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Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,933 posts since
Aug 6, 2007
1. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 3:35 PM
Great question. Home equity loans can be like a two edged sword.
Easy access to money, as you said "which gives people the cash flow to ----".
Like credit cards and loans, all have to be paid back in time.
If you succeed in business or pick winning stocks you have the funds to pay off the equity loans.
Do not want to hear about those who did not have the funds to pay back the equity loans.
LUCKIEST
Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,933 posts since
Aug 6, 2007
2. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 3:41 PM
Or if you want to get personal
20 years ago I was an self employed Accountant who wanted to increase my business.
We used our home equity loan to purchased the business of anther accountant.
The business grew with the help of a telemarketer. Good timing and computers.
LUCKIEST
Click to view CorpCons08's profile Mogul CorpCons08 1,128 posts since
Nov 14, 2007
3. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 4:05 PM
I think I told part of my story before, but here it goes. I was working as a SVP of Commercial Development for a financial institution. It disgusted me to see the deceitful ways coworkers would manipulate business owners. I also could not stand office drama and having to work for someone. One day I came in and they told me that I cared about my clients too much. I agreed with them and told them goodbye. I had done private consulting for many years, and my business partner for many years more. It was a natural fit.
Click to view Matzz22's profile Professional Matzz22 18 posts since
Oct 29, 2007
4. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 4:25 PM
Great question. We all know the basic risk is risk of losing money because of whatever reason. And no excuse will work here, unlike job.

But in my mind, basic risk of opening small business and remaining small always is losing time of life, losing the time to share with family, losing time to enjoy, losing relationship etc, all the losses are time related. This is a 24 hr job; If the vision is big, and you can grow from small to big where you can set up a process/ system working for you in few years, there the loss is much less than the gain. You regain conrol of life once your system is in place, both in terms of time and money, also security. I definitely understand you still have to work but the intensity will be less and you will have trust-able help. That's what I am tring/hoping to create... let's see...
Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,933 posts since
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5. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 5:09 PM
in response to: Matzz22
Matzz, Please tell us more. You left us at cliff's edge.
Where are you this scope of life??
LUCKIEST
Click to view DomainDiva's profile Mogul DomainDiva 1,732 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
6. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 7:17 PM
I did not listen to anyone who said my idea was stupid...and there were plenty. I cashed in my SEP IRA for the first cash infusion to get going. I work all day to pay the bills and all evening to design my domain for the coders.
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
7. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 8:52 PM
in response to: LUCKIEST
I agree with you David that a loan equity is a two edged sword, but let me tell the story of my oncle. He did a similar thing to start his graphic design firm in France, it wasn't a loan equity, but secured a loan against his house, if I remember the start up was equivalent to $50,000. He was smart to invest at the right time and grow his business with emplyees, perhaps with some luck, 20 years later he sold his company before taking his retirement equivalent to a few millions dollars.

I believe everybody going in business take a risk, small or big it really depends of the business and what you can afford.
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
8. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 9:14 PM
in response to: CorpCons08
I understand, some owners not all fortunately, don't appreciate the value of some employees (the hard worker), it is a 50/50 either you create your own business or you find another job.

When I was working in a print shop here in Las Vegas, I did the job of two people, and I remember my manager (not the owner) telling me: I never see someone working like that in my all carrier. I was fast, organized, and not bad at work. Ready to show how a little guy like me from the old Europe doing jobs for our American friends ;-)

I was tired with the turnover in this field and worked as a sole proprietor design company, then we've got our son, and switched to another business online with a higher legal structure LLC.

I use all my equiment to take pictures of my products, resize them, added to the data base, upload them, create new pages on my e-commerce via FTP, etc....

So when I say switched business, not really, it is just the continuation of my job through my e-commerce.
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
9. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 9:27 PM
in response to: Matzz22
Why do you say small business think small? Most of small business owner will be glad to grow.

As far as I am concern about my family life, I don't have any problem because my wife is my partner in business, and we are both involved. I think if you are in business there are some sacrifices to do, this is why not all people want to run a business.

The key is to get an idea, stick with it a few years and see what you can do, never give up. For example 90% of e-commerce owner will fail the first year, why?

Perhaps someone tell them, built a website, sell your products and make easy money. Yes if you start with this idea, you will fail, because behind an e-commerce there is a lot of work before selling and make money.
Click to view moogrdotcom's profile Mogul moogrdotcom 82 posts since
Dec 16, 2007
10. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 9:28 PM
The biggest risk i had was putting a ton of money through my amex charge card but in hindsight that was the single most important decision i made. Give me net30 payments and helped me learn to manage cash flow and i got a ton of points to boot ;)

some scary bills but with a little cash management and having checks available from other cards or LOCs to help float those tight months it worked out well and i figured in those costs as much as possible into my pricing.
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
11. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 9:35 PM
in response to: DomainDiva
I understand you DomainDiva.

My family told me your are crazy, don't do that, you are wasting your time and your money, blah blah blah.

I did not listen them, the only person believing in my project was my wife :-)
Click to view slavaret's profile Mogul slavaret 78 posts since
Oct 26, 2007
12. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 16, 2007 11:27 PM
My first risk was giving up the certaintly of a regular paycheck to become a self-employed/independent consultant.

My second risk was giving up the consulting assignments to trade stocks. I'd say this was a bigger risk because you know that if you accept an assignment, you will earn an X amount, but you may spend the same amount of time researching/trading stocks and end up losing $$.
Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,933 posts since
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13. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 17, 2007 7:18 AM
in response to: moogrdotcom
Moogrrdot, I am a SCORE Counselor and we see people putting a lot of money through their charge cards.
When it works out and the business succeeds, thats great. Unfortunately many do not succeed and goes
their business and credit. LUCKIEST
Click to view moogrdotcom's profile Mogul moogrdotcom 82 posts since
Dec 16, 2007
14. Re: What risks did you take to run your new business Dec 17, 2007 7:55 AM
in response to: LUCKIEST
The charge card was 100% used for inventory/drop shipping and wasn't used for actuall business expenses. The effect was a net30 account without having to pre-qualify to hefty requirements at my major distributors and it allowed me the 5-7 business days of float i needed to collect, deposit & skim off my profit and pay everything off :) Plus it nilled out my travel expenses since charging 2-3k/day adds up in points real quick. Amex is quick to respond - sometimes negatively to changes in purchasing/spending habits but usually with a little sweet talking they will leverage your purchasing/paying habits quickly into LOC's and other products with more purchasing power and in the retail industry (ecommerce) its ALL about purchasing power ;)
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