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Click to view MedlineRecrui's profile Start-up MedlineRecrui 4 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
15. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Oct 10, 2007 10:15 PM
There are many different ways of paying for a website. I did a lot of research before I chose my web designer. I paid a flat fee based on the number of pages and complexity/functionality of my page. Also, I went with GoDaddy for my hosting and domain purchase (it was like $40/year-24Hr tech support). Some Web Developers have their own server storage and will charge you monthly fees, but I think it's a rip off. I ended up choosing Ackerman Solutions for my page design (727) 418-6186. You can see my page --> http://www.medlinerecruits.com (I still need to finish some narratives on random pages). I also referred a friend of mine to them and this is the page that they did for him for under $1,000----> http://www.chsvcs.com. The developer/owner Tony Ackerman did my page in less than a week which is unheard of...I think. My friend never even met with him in person, and said that he was great to work with. I remember that his prices started at like $250+ a page and went up depending on extras that you wanted (forms...etc). I would definetly go with a flat fee again. I would be afraid that someone would add hours here or there, but that's just me.

Hope that helped! Good luck!

Tiffany
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Click to view virtual_kelly's profile Start-up virtual_kelly 2 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
16. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Oct 10, 2007 11:46 PM
I charge clients by the hour. Using a time tracking software, I always let them know how much time has been used. Typically, designing the template takes the most time consuming ranging from 3 or more hours depending on my client's ability to communicate. After that, it's a breeze.

PROS to my method: If it is easy, it will be done quickly therefore you aren't paying $250 per page no matter the complexity.
CONS: You have to be able to trust the designer. If you change your mind a lot, you can rack up the hours with changes. Definately know what you want. Look at other sites and be able to communicate what you want and need the first time.

Always register your own domain name and pick the hosting company. Too many horror stories of designers disappearing and there is no way to get their website back.

Hope this helps.
Click to view idealtech's profile Professional idealtech 8 posts since
Oct 11, 2007
17. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Oct 11, 2007 12:34 PM
I think you can really do it yourself. We have a simple 5 page website and average computer knowledge that built and designed it thru GoDaddy. Check out their website, it's pretty inexpensive and they have a companion called Website Tonight that we used to create our own. It was fairly simple and we received help whenever we needed it. You can also set up the domain.........one stop shopping for the average user. You don't have to "know how to create a website" they do all that for you, pretty much plug and play
Click to view abbasm's profile Start-up abbasm 5 posts since
Nov 25, 2007
18. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Nov 25, 2007 11:32 PM

Hi,

Was just wondering if you got your website project completed already. If not, I can help you build simple static site for your business at a very compatitive fixed rate.

Check out http://www.a-plus-dental.com for sample.

Thanks,
Arshnet.net
Click to view david28078's profile Mogul david28078 64 posts since
Oct 11, 2007
19. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Nov 27, 2007 2:43 PM
in response to: abbasm
Get it designed for you for a song - www.vivawebsitedesign.comhttp://www.vivawebsitedesign.com

$399 for a fantastic website - no frames, no flash and no SEO roadblocks

Take a look at screenshots this is by far the best all round web design service on the 'net.

David
Click to view david28078's profile Mogul david28078 64 posts since
Oct 11, 2007
20. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Nov 27, 2007 2:45 PM
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Click to view MTCreations's profile Mogul MTCreations 82 posts since
Nov 18, 2007
21. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Nov 29, 2007 10:31 AM
Ah yes, the inevitable chiming in of the cheap web designers that work by the hour, or for some ungodly low amount, because we all know how easy and simple it is to hack together a handful of pages and call it a day.

And a car is a set of parts one can buy at NAPA stores nationwide.

Considering that most of these fly-by-night or part-time firms won't be around a year after they start, you should invest in your website and find a professional firm, just as you should have a dentist for dental care, and an accountant for your taxes.

Instead of posting for days, let me recycle what I have already written on this subject:
http://www.miketruesecreations.com/faqs-cheap-website-designers.php
Cheap hosting:
http://www.miketruesecreations.com/faqs-free-hosting-websites.php

Print designers doing websites (shudder)
http://www.miketruesecreations.com/faqs-print-designers-not-website-designers.php
How much should it really cost, and why?
http://www.miketruesecreations.com/faqs-cost-of-great-website.php

http://www.miketruesecreations.com/about-website-design-process.php

Sign up for my newsletter, and receive free a guide to selecting a website design firm - which is NOT a sales pitch for my firm, but a vendor neutral set of questions, checklists and viewpoints to evaluate any webdev firm you're looking at.

Best wishes.
Click to view K Bizz's profile Start-up K Bizz 2 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
22. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Dec 14, 2007 4:05 PM
If u work with www.kbizzsolutions.com. You dont have to pay per hour. Its a home base business, running by a developer mum. visit the site and read testimonials. You will feel it the right company for you. She started the business in March 2007 and now have almost 50 highly satisfied clients. She works with you on every level. Prices are so affordable u will not believe. Check them out www.kbizzsolutions.com
Click to view RB4711's profile Professional RB4711 8 posts since
Dec 19, 2007
23. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Dec 27, 2007 10:17 AM
WhiteBrow - Look to do a lump sum for the first web site for your business. Their are services that will provide a template that can be customized for your business. Make sure that your get a package design on web site design, domain name, hosting and basic marketing for your web site. Now a days, you need all these working together to have a good web presence. Also, keep in mind that since you do not have expertise, the person or firm will provide service to make updates to your site. Let me know if you have more questions.
Click to view studio 525's profile Mogul studio 525 59 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
24. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Dec 27, 2007 3:13 PM
in response to: RB4711
Might I suggest that the real question you should be asking is what kind of results can I expect from my website. A poorly designed website can do enormous damage to your business, just as a well designed website can substantially boost your profits and improve productivity. Good website design that gets results involves much more than attractive graphics or the current web 2.0 design trends. It's an integrated marketing platform that involves graphic design, copywriting, SEO, and the many methods that drive the right prospects to your website. Good website design attracts your target market, sets the right tone to establish trust and is compelling enough to convert a high percentage of visitors into customers. Because it asks a great deal it is not necessarily cheap.

Website design that doesn't accomplish these essential tasks is at best neutral, but more often than not actually drives potential customers away from your business.

The web presents enormous competition for your products and services. If your website is not as good as your competition (and hopefully much better) you're in a very bad place. The web is probably the greatest marketing tool I've seen in my 30 years as a marketing and advertising Creative Director. But many business owners don't understand that a website that is not at the very top of its game can do as much damage as a good website can help.

I believe the question most business owners should ask is what results am I going to get from my website and how do I ensure positive results and avoid negative consequences?

Getting positive results usually costs money.

You can always find a cheaper way to market. But, over the long run (and short run too), you usually end up reducing your profits, sometimes dramatically.

As a marketing professional and owner of a web marketing and design company, it may sound like I'm selling something. Of course I'm going to ask people to pay my fees, which are fair but not the lowest on the block. But in 30 years I've seen this far too often to ignore. And the web accelerates these trends dramatically.

Use an inexpensive template design and you'll look like every other inexpensive template design on the web. At best you'll be invisible. Fail to use compelling headlines and copy, informative content and irresistable offers and your results are going to be zip--or worse.

For many businesses today, their website is their face. It's how people first know them. It's where people go to research before buying. There are many opportunites to make a customer, but just as many to chase them away. The real question may be, can you afford not to create the very best website you can afford?

If you're looking for the best results and not the lowest price, you may want to talk to me further. You can reach me through my website at http://www.studio525.com.

Good luck and may you prosper beyond your dreams,
Peter
Click to view RealEstate's profile Start-up RealEstate 5 posts since
Dec 27, 2007
25. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Dec 27, 2007 3:33 PM
WhiteBrow

The common sense answer to your question is neither. Escrow service would be your safest bet. I work in the domain and hosting industry and I hear horror stories everyday between clients and webmasters. I would take the time to do your homework and check some overseas free lance designers. They are relatively inexpensive and most provide escrow service to ensure that all parties are happy.

RealEstate
Click to view timfahey's profile Start-up timfahey 1 posts since
Dec 27, 2007
26. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Dec 27, 2007 3:49 PM
Ultimately, you get what you pay for. I would recommend that you get an analysis of what you need and negotiate with the writer. If you are dealing with a trustworthy and professional writer, and just need an edit, I would recommend you pay by the hour. If you need ongoing edits and changes, the hourly rate works because each situation is different. Contact me if you need any recommendations. : )
Thanks
Tim
Click to view xenopod's profile Mogul xenopod 109 posts since
Dec 28, 2007
27. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Dec 31, 2007 3:26 PM
WhiteBrow:

If you truly have no idea of the scale, scope, or objective of your website other than "I need one" I would encourage you to use www.guru.com

That website is basically an open market filled with varying quality professionals that are willing to do work for various prices or rates.

Post any information you have developed about the project such as budget, what you can provide, and any idea of what you want or need. Then when you get responses for the ad read them, and I mean really read what many of the professionals post. Obviously there will be a lot of sales pitch language in the proposals, but over the course of the proposals you read you should be able to attain a sense of what it is you really want out of your website. Hopefully you will also have found a web developer you feel capable of creating your vision of your website.

That website has profiles that provide various depths of information about freelancers or development companies on the site. This will provide you a means of seeing what they have done and what their style is like. For a first website I would encourage you to only pick a web developer from that site that has a reviewed profile. You may also consider the additional restriction of prefering vendors and professionals instead of free profiles. You can also impose various geographic preferences, but other then binding to a USA developer you may not wish to limit all the way down to your city/state unless face to face contact is really imperative to your website being sucessfully completed. Be sure to read the developer reviews of any you are intested in to understand the developer's strengths and limits. Once you have selected your developer you can (as RealEstate advised) use an escrow service that includes dispute resolution services. The best of all this whole process costs you nothing all fees are handled by the developer. The worse case scenario is you may need to post several RFP's to finally comb out specifically what you need and then the correct professional for the job.

My firm www.xenopodinc.com been affiliated with this site for some time now. We find it a reasonable way to ensure mutual protection and understanding. We do not always make as much money as we potentially could have in other means and we do look for clients through other avenues, but it is an excellent resource to be used by developers/designers and employers looking for firms/freelancers services.
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,101 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
28. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Jan 2, 2008 10:38 AM
in response to: xenopod
WhiteBrow:

You have gotten a lot of good answers. There is no right or wrong answer to this. It is a personality thing for most. "Project Basis" verses "Hourly Fee" has been an ongoing discussion in the advertising community since there was an advertising community.

Here are some thoughts from an advertising person:
  • Please get at least three bids.
  • Request, no, demand to see their portfolio. (If they don't have one - walk, no, run away)
  • Ask for references. Check references. (Family does not count)
  • Stop and think about what you want your site to do, put it in writing. (It is okay to look at other websites and find things you would like for yours to do)
  • Have a budget amount in mind for the job. Leave a little wiggle room, a little.
  • Ask questions, there are no dumb questions. How they answer the questions will tell you how they are going to be to work with.
  • Listen to their answers. Do they seem to understand what you need or want? Do they get it?
  • Get an idea of how many people will be working on your project. (It is ideal to have at least an art director/designer and a writer)
  • Do not forget about editing - make sure it is included in scope of the project and that there is time for it in the schedule.
  • There will be revisions, ask what constitutes a revisions and how many rounds are included in the scope.
  • Set deadlines or milestones that both of you can agree on.
  • Be patient. Yes, God created the world in 6 days but HE is God. The rest of us require more time.
  • Make quality the focus, not time or money! Get the best quality for the budget and time you have.
  • Build for the future. Ask for a website design that will not be obsolete in a matter of months. Make sure they are using some of the newer programs. This will lengthen the life span of the site.
  • Think long term. How easy is the site going to be to maintain, update, change or redesign? Yes, you can pull this site down and put up another, but you want to maintain a consistent look and feel.

You may have known all of this and if you did, I meant no harm. I hope they help.

Iwrite
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
29. Re: Website design - do I pay by the hour or lump sum? Jan 6, 2008 10:50 AM
in response to: MedlineRecrui
My company charges a per/page rate.

Web Design Services by iTS also offers a program for Start-up company's that helps them to develop a web presence online for nothing.

For more information please go to: http://www.intechspecial.com
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