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Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,100 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
15. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 11:37 AM
in response to: golfheaven
I still think this is a very cool idea. Let me know when you are thinking about redesigning your website and I'll put you in touch with some really good folks in Atlanta that you can work with.
Click to view golfheaven's profile Mogul golfheaven 159 posts since
Jul 15, 2008
16. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 11:48 AM
in response to: ggoodard
Thank you:
In today's world of the world wide web and scams it is only a wise person who reduces risk to the best of ones ability. I am not looking for 100% i will have major skin in myself. In regards to qualifications I have over 30 + years in assisting young children to the game and the rules. My due diligence in market is very detailed, also sweat equity counts. I am collateralized at 50-55 % with hard assets. I would have been more then 100% if economy and rules did not change and the banks no longer except rental properties as collateral.

Yes: I agree with you that most are (whinnying and complaints about having to spend money to get money)
however that is not a issue with myself. The issue is not to be scammed.
Click to view golfheaven's profile Mogul golfheaven 159 posts since
Jul 15, 2008
17. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 11:53 AM
in response to: Iwrite
Thanks:
I have had a conversation with Mike @ Freeits about the direction I would like to go and he was very helpful with his advice.
If time is a issue with him I will ask for your folks in Atl.
Click to view apparelmaster's profile Authority apparelmaster 10 posts since
Nov 29, 2008
18. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 4:09 PM
in response to: golfheaven
Hi Golfheaven,

I am in the same position. Are you going to proceed?
Click to view golfheaven's profile Mogul golfheaven 159 posts since
Jul 15, 2008
19. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 10:35 PM
in response to: apparelmaster
I am considering it if i can wrap my mind around the proper structure for us both.
Click to view apparelmaster's profile Authority apparelmaster 10 posts since
Nov 29, 2008
20. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 10:47 PM
in response to: golfheaven
what email can I contact you? Maybe we can figure out the situation together :)
Click to view golfheaven's profile Mogul golfheaven 159 posts since
Jul 15, 2008
21. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 11:19 PM
in response to: apparelmaster
If you click on my profile go to web site and contact me. I will respond thru personel email give your number if you want to talk
Click to view Moof94's profile Professional Moof94 8 posts since
Nov 22, 2008
22. Re: Help Please Dec 24, 2008 3:43 PM
in response to: apparelmaster

O.K. let me help all of you guys out. I have been in contact with Mr. LFreeman. I have done my own checking, he checks out legit on alot of things. It is really a hard choice to make. I have spoke with a business advisor and a lot of business associates about this. He own's a yacht charter company that has been registered with the state of Florida since 2006 all of his contact info checks out. He has not misled me in anyway. I am very uncomfortable about the upfront fee (RED FLAG) I have approached him regarding an escrow, he refused to allow it. (RED FLAG) he did however give me two email addresses for references. Both emails were "gmails" (RED FLAG) I emailed his 2 references that would only speak to me through emails (RED FLAG) Strange as it may be the first email quoted word for word the post that ggoodard posted. "he will do what he says he will do, when he says he will do it". coinsidence? (RED FLAG). The second reference seemed seperate until I asked for information on them. Of course they went straight to the "I signed an NDA". The first reference he gave me could not give me a contact number or a business name or industry. The second reference was willing to at least fill me in on what industry she was in. She "disassembles, ships and re-assembles pipe organs globally" again, just like ggoodard, coinsidence? (RED FLAG). I is very clear that these people are all the same person. So tonight I met with my attorney, I showed him all of the emails, all the posts on the forums, all of lfreeman's business info. My lawyer say all the red flags that I did but then some. He told me in all of his years as a lawyer is has never seen an NDA that was so restricting (RED FLAG) He told me that he had just closed a 2 million dollar deal and never were any fee's asked of the company receiving the investment (RED FLAG). He explained to me that anybody looking to invest in a company will have the funds for "due diligence" and should never ask for those fee's to be paid. My lawyer told me to stay away from this guy, unless...... He lifts some of the NDA restrictions (which he can do) and allows his last 3 deals to speak with me and disclose there business and contact information so I can check on them. He told me that anybody who was being legit would have no problem doing that, and should have done that as soon as I expressed my reluctancy. I have asked him to do this through an email. I have not had a response as of yet, but it is late so we will see how he responds in the morning. The scam my lawyer can see here is, you pay $2500.00 for his "due diligence" with no promise of funding and he takes you $2500.00 and never funds anybody. Quick $2500.00 per "sucker". I really am crossing my fingers that lfreeman is for real and will lift his NDA restrictions. I would have no problem giving this a shot if he would only cooperate. Good Luck to everybody hope this helps.
Click to view golfheaven's profile Mogul golfheaven 159 posts since
Jul 15, 2008
23. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 11:40 PM
in response to: Moof94
Thank you for your insight seems he is fishing quite a bit. I will proceed only with caution if i decide it would be a feasible situation for i have people in jacksonville to hand deliver funds.
Click to view Moof94's profile Professional Moof94 8 posts since
Nov 22, 2008
24. Re: Help Please Dec 2, 2008 11:49 PM
in response to: golfheaven

Good Luck, Keep us posted, I will do the same.
Click to view apparelmaster's profile Authority apparelmaster 10 posts since
Nov 29, 2008
25. Re: Help Please Dec 3, 2008 2:03 AM
in response to: Moof94
Thanks a bunch, I will keep you posted as well!
Click to view Moof94's profile Professional Moof94 8 posts since
Nov 22, 2008
26. Re: Help Please Dec 3, 2008 10:38 AM
in response to: apparelmaster

O.K. I have made my decision. I terminated my relationship with Mr. LFreeman this morning. He replied to my request by ridiculing me for using an attorney. Then told me the only way he would allow me to contact his references is for me to send him at least $800.00. A business man on the up and up would not do that, they would probably commend you for trying to protect the business that they are so interested in investing in. Somebody on the up and up would be understanding not upset. So based on my experience this guy is not for real. He is not seriouse about investing any money in any of your businesses all he wants is your money. My advice, find a local investor that you are familiar with, and keep with the rule of thumb..... If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is, and If anybody ask's for money upfront they are not there to help. Good luck all.
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,100 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
27. Re: Help Please Dec 3, 2008 10:43 AM
in response to: Moof94
Wow. You dodge a bullet. The behavior you described is definitely not the behavior of someone on the up and up. I am glad we are having this discussion before someone lost their money.

Good luck.
Click to view golfheaven's profile Mogul golfheaven 159 posts since
Jul 15, 2008
28. Re: Help Please Dec 3, 2008 10:53 AM
in response to: Iwrite
I posted and the moderator is reviewing it. I guess you can not use certian words in your post LOL
Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,100 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
29. Re: Help Please Dec 3, 2008 11:37 AM
in response to: golfheaven
No, you can't Mister Potty mouth!! LOL

Where is the Lifebuoy soap when you need it? (a joke stolen from the movie A Christmas Story)

I hope you run away from this deal.
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