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Click to view CorpCons08's profile Mogul CorpCons08 1,128 posts since
Nov 14, 2007
15. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 8:04 PM
in response to: stephan
I've still got my loyalty to Slackware...
I have looked into Ubuntu from comments I've gotten, but don't know if I'm ready to give up Slack.

CC08
Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Mogul Lighthouse24 2,396 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
16. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 8:20 PM
in response to: stephan

Well, now I really don't believe you have actually tried it anywhere beyond the friendly confines of wherever you happen to be sitting. It works so long as you don't need to wirelessly connect to a client's or hotel's printers, theater projectors, and audio amps -- or upload/download data via the Internet within a presentation -- or livelink to Adobe Connect -- or control multimedia with a wireless mouse -- or . . .

My audience might have gotten a kick out of all the error messages, but since the best we could ever manage was one-fourth of the screen being projected, even that wasn't possible.
Click to view sirebral's profile Authority sirebral 17 posts since
Dec 28, 2007
17. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 8:23 PM

Macintosh computers are designed to be ready out of the box. A PC ( I assume you mean a Vista or non Mac PC [Personal Computer] ) is not designed as such and so requires a bit more software.

When you are thinking of buying a computer I think what it really comes down to is 3 items.

Personal Choice
Technical Specs
Software Used

Do you want a Mac or a Vista? I would take a tour of local computer shops and find which one suits you best.

Technical Specs? RAM and CPU and Video Card. The higher the number you have the more you are going to enjoy your computer no matter which one you purchased.

Software Used. Some like The Gimp, some like Adobe. There honestly is not much of an OS incompatibilty to me anymore. The developer can translate the product if that is desired.

No matter what you get I suggest a very fast CPU. You can always buy more RAM and a better video card, but the CPU is the hardest to replace and upgrade.
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
18. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 9:03 PM
in response to: CorpCons08
I dont know Vista, all my computers run with XP pro ;-)

Vista is intalled on my wife's computer, I really dont like it, took too much RAM memory to run that. It seems Vista is similar with what some people experienced with Windows 2000, an intermediary step.

I will wait the next OS after Vista in 64 bits ;-)
Click to view CorpCons08's profile Mogul CorpCons08 1,128 posts since
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19. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 9:08 PM
in response to: NatOnline
Blackcomb! lol.
I only have Vista because it came preinstalled on my new notebook.
I really crack up with the error reporting.
What does Microsoft plan to learn that they don't already know?
Their software is a joke. End of story.
An Operating System should not take the resources that Windows takes.
It is supposed to be just that, an Operating System. A shell (kernel if you will) that launches and runs applications.

CC08
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
20. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 9:15 PM
in response to: sirebral

CPU is not hard to remplace at all lol.


I will suggest a high end motherboard that can handle a lot of RAM and fast frequency like 1333Mhz and Intel Core 2 Quad-Core Processor.

Try to upgrade a MAC ;-)

Click to view generalmicro's profile Professional generalmicro 5 posts since
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21. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 9:16 PM
Bluesuit,

If you end up going with a Mac, your best bet would be to get one of the new Macs. The reason being, the new Macs come with Intel processors and can boot BOTH OS X and Windows XP and Vista. Basically, you get the best of both worlds.

My suggestion would be to go with something inexpensive since you're just starting out. I have a Mac Mini with an Intel Core Duo processor. It was one of the first to come out with the Intel CPUs. I do a lot of graphic and web design and it runs the newest versions of the Adobe applications (Photoshop, Indesign, Illustrator, etc.) without any problems.

When I need to use Windows, I just reboot into Windows XP Pro on the same computer. To be honest, XP actually runs faster than OS X on this Mac.

Hope this helps.

Jason
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Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
22. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 9:18 PM
in response to: CorpCons08
Remove Vista and put XP pro lol Vista it's a junk, check all the webmaster forums and your will see on what OS they are running ;-)

BTW you cannot format an HD formatted by Vista to step down on XP pro, you must buy another HD.
Click to view generalmicro's profile Professional generalmicro 5 posts since
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23. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 9:37 PM
in response to: NatOnline
Upgrading a Mac is actually pretty easy. It's just like any other name brand computer.

The base Mac Pro comes with 2 Dual-Core Intel Xeon processors, 1GB of 667MHz DDR2 RAM (upgradeable to 16GB), and a 250GB Serial ATA hard drive. It's got 4 hard drive bays and enough PCI slots to do whatever you want.

Jason
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Click to view CorpCons08's profile Mogul CorpCons08 1,128 posts since
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24. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 9:59 PM
in response to: NatOnline
I have a low level format that removes the formatting and can format it for Linux or WinXP.
I found that before I bought the machine (:
I am most likely going to change this over to Slack...

CC08
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
25. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 10:16 PM
in response to: generalmicro
No, you can upgrade an entire MAC. You cannot buy another motherboard, because MAC will never sell their MB in retail.

"667MHz DDR2 RAM (upgradeable to 16GB)" Lol not bad, mine can have 32GB ;-)

ATA connection are a little bit old, I've got a WD Raptor in Sata2, works fast. I wanted to use a SCSI HD but too expensive for what I am doing.

No need of hard drive bays, with eSata2 external connection ;-)

No need of PCI, everything is integraded, I don't even need a PCI controler card, and I can tell you my computer stay cooler than before.

This is what I like when you build your won, you master what you want ;-)
Click to view CorpCons08's profile Mogul CorpCons08 1,128 posts since
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26. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 10:19 PM
in response to: NatOnline
I spend my money on women...
Maybe I should focus more on my computers lol.

CC08
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
27. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 10:37 PM
in response to: CorpCons08
I do both, spend money for my wife and my computer ahhahahhahaha
Click to view CorpCons08's profile Mogul CorpCons08 1,128 posts since
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28. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 28, 2007 10:46 PM
in response to: NatOnline
These expenses cannot be good for our business plans :D
Click to view GFX Reb0rn's profile Professional GFX Reb0rn 15 posts since
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29. Re: Mac or PC? Dec 29, 2007 9:34 AM

I am learning the Marketing trade right now and I am trying to start up my own buisiness and Mac I would say is the best choice. They are very easy to use as well as very fun to use. They are specially designed to do the fun stuff... but are very capable of doing the work stuff also. It runs all Microsoft Office tools as well as Apple's "iWork '08". Its a little pricy if your not going to spend much time in the editing field but overall.... One of the best investments I have ever made.
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