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15 Replies Last post: Dec 26, 2008 1:42 PM by EyesofTexas

Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money.

Dec 27, 2007 2:02 AM

Click to view Menoz~'s profile Professional Menoz~ 9 posts since
Dec 27, 2007

Here's the problem.

I just started my company
(incorporated) got the state tax id, FIN, even registered for a
D.U.N.S. #.

I have been all over the Internet
looking for people and/ companies who have been where I am right now.

Here's where I'm at.

I need investors (not their money).

I do not want to sell equity.

I do not want to borrow.

I do not want donations

So for the rest of this message please
understand that this is absolutely not about “fund raising”.

Here's the problem, I need Investors
who seek real estate opportunities. My company will acquire
properties that will either require me to hold or sell. I have no
plans to hold property(s) as it is not what the company was
established for. The one thing that is certain is that most of the
properties will come to the company for less than the owner's
purchase price. These are completely voluntary and initiated by the
owner(s).

So here's the problem I'm having,

Where I do i find these Investors who
are seeking real estate opportunities.

For my company to be successful, I only
have to achieve 1 task; Get rid of a property as fast as possible. I
won't be making much on these properties, as it is not the source of
my revenue. So holding these properties will likely eat into my
revenue. O' sure I could sell them for a nice markup. But then I'm
stuck having maintain them until they sell. So I'm going to keep it
simple. Owning real estate is not what my company is about. So when I
get it – it's got to go.

All l need is the relationship with
investors to let them know when I get a property. I 'm certain they
can tell me what they are looking for, so I know before hand if the
property is of interest to them or If I'm going to have to hold.
Either way.

I just need several investors who are
willing to take an opportunity when I get one.

Tell How to find them, my company
starts business Jan 15, 08

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Click to view lawrebel1's profile Start-up lawrebel1 4 posts since
Dec 27, 2007
1. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 27, 2007 2:09 AM
Pass your deal info on to me i will hook toy up wit investors.

regards,
stephen strydom (ceo)
eproperty investors, llc
155 s angelina dr
placentia
CA
646.593.5127
lawrebel1@gmail.com
Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,932 posts since
Aug 6, 2007
2. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 27, 2007 7:29 AM
h3. Menoz, Good luck when you start your company on Jan 15, 2008.Tell
us more about yourself and please explain the difference between
needing investors (not their money). You want to sell real estate to investors?? Do you have a Marketing Plan??

h3. Maybe the following will help, LUCKIEST

Steps to Small Business Success

1. Start Smart
2. Plan Ahead
3. Set up Systems
4. Seek out Sales
5. Aim for Growth
6. Leverage Opportunities


1. Start Smart.
Identify a niche. Don't compete to be the lowest cost provider. Look
for what makes your product or service unique and adds a special value
for the client and charge for that value. Every business has many
facets. Start with what you know and like; start a business that has
meaning to you. Keep in mind that we don't know what the future holds,
many of the jobs and businesses of tomorrow don't exist today. You can
create your own success.

Now is the time to dream. To start smart, you should like the idea of
the business. The way to earn a good income and build wealth is by
serving clients well, making their life better in some way-it's more
than filling a need in the marketplace. To succeed you want to test the
idea to make sure your potential clients like the idea too. Test your
ideas.

2. Plan Ahead.
People often ask me why bother with a business plan? Look at the
lottery as an example. You may get lucky and get the winning ticket,
but the odds are against you when you rely on random chance. I'm a risk
taker...but not that much, minimize the risk of going into business and
maximize your potential for success. Take the time to write a plan of
how you get from point A to point B. A plan gives you a clear future
focus and increases your chances of success.

The first rule of a start-up is put some of your own money in the
business. As the owner you must be willing to capitalize the business.
The second rule is put as little of your own money as possible in the
business. Prepare your plan and look for funding for your business from
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credit.

Don't go it alone. Plan ahead now to build your team. Your team may
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mentor from your industry and get a SCORE mentor to help you plan for
success. No one has all the answers. You get more ideas and information
by building a success, support team that can help you plan ahead.

3. Set up Systems.
The most basic system every business should have is a good financial
system. Ask yourself how am I going to generate enough income to
support myself and my family. Begin here. Put together a personal
budget, so you know what it costs you to live. Now, you can move on to
the business budget and sales planning, so you can see how many sales
you need to break even and make a profit. The start-up expense plan,
operating budget and your accounting software are vital to your
success.


4. Seek out Sales.
The daunting question is how do you go about seeking out your first
sale. Recognize that since you don't have a big ad budget to be seen by
everyone, you need to target a niche and get connected in your market
community, be it local, regional or national. You need other people
selling for you-not employees-goodwill referrals. Get out and talk to
as many people as you can. Join organizations that would have clients
for your product or service. Become a visible part of your market, and
then ask for the sale. You begin the sales process with people that you
know. Yes, it's okay to start with friends and family as your first
customers, and then broaden from there.


5. Aim for Growth.
The basic tenant of creating a company is that you own the company. You
are not just creating a job for yourself. It's less risk and less
investment to get a job. Building a business is creating a company that
is more than the job itself. Think about the future. How large do you
want the company to be in terms of sales, net profit and employees?
Your answer to each of these questions will influence how you grow.
There are varying costs and profits associated with growth. It's
important to make a deliberate choice early about how you want to grow
your company.

6. Leverage Opportunities.
Good luck. Good fortune. Good timing. All play a part in business. As a
business owner, be very clear about your core focus for the business
and how it serves clients. Your core business is what pays the bills.
Then, as an entrepreneur you are about opportunity. When you see a
potential opportunity or stroke of luck measure it against your core
business focus. Good fortune is great, when it matches your vision for
the business. Always consider if a good opportunity is the right fit
for your business. If something looks great, but it's not in sync with
your long-term plan and budget, think carefully before committing your
company's resources.

Click to view DomainDiva's profile Mogul DomainDiva 1,731 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
3. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 27, 2007 11:20 AM
in response to: lawrebel1
There does not seem to be any public information on you or your company. Could you tell us more about yourself?
Click to view jamdown's profile Professional jamdown 13 posts since
Nov 14, 2007
4. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 27, 2007 11:41 AM
I am a real estate investor, I would like your list but could you tell me more about this company.
Click to view Menoz~'s profile Professional Menoz~ 9 posts since
Dec 27, 2007
5. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 27, 2007 12:21 PM
in response to: DomainDiva
I just started the company in Nov.07 operations will begin in Jan.08. The company "Menoz Corporation" will remain a privately owned company. I am not selling shares of the company. Since I'm not asking people to directly invest in my company I don't see the need for a lot of public information.

If you are an REI , all I'm asking of you is to allow me offer you properties that i (will) acquire in your area. my revenues will come from business done prior to the sell. "I'll make my money before the sell existed" . for that reason I'm looking for REI's who area willing to let me pass property details to them when I know the property meets their criteria. I need to know the investors I'm dealing with so I don't waste their time or mine presenting a property outside of their criteria or range.

About my company?
About Me ?

What does my company and /or personal information have to do with the profit potentianal of a peice of real estate? (no ill meant)
Look it's very simple and should remain that way - (1) If the property is not located in your area, I probably won't try to contact you. (2) If I paid 70%+ of market value for the property, I probably won't contact you. (3) If I don't think You would buy it with in a week - I won't contact you.

I am not set up to buy and sell real estate. But will have to acquire some properties as a "side effect" of business. There will be "opoertunity" in the properties I would offer you. If I receive a property that has low or no potentail "you won't know about it" I'll get stuct with it and prepare to make lemon-ade.
Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Mogul Lighthouse24 2,396 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
6. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 27, 2007 12:43 PM
in response to: Menoz~

What is it that YOU are bringing to the table (i.e., relative to properties within my area and investment range, what can you do from wherever you are that I can't do from here myself)?
Click to view Menoz~'s profile Professional Menoz~ 9 posts since
Dec 27, 2007
7. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 27, 2007 4:54 PM
in response to: Lighthouse24
Q: what can you do from wherever you are that I can't do from here myself?

Take on an amount of risk that (you) investors avoid

In the course of doing business, I will end up with properties that have a negitive equity. Those properties I / many company can handle. Our business model and stategy is based on just that. What I am not positioned for is maintaining an inventory of every property I acquire. So, It's easier to get rid of good opportunities that the bad one. Like I said earlier, my company makes its money on the front end. The properties I will be offering to investors not acquired for the purpose of investment (on my end).

What am I bringing to the table. "call me a bird dog" if you wish. even though I just a business man who knows what he's getting into and when an exit strategy is needed.

Investors are part of that exit strategy. "I'm not trying to buy and sell real estate".
so, what am I offering investors? an occassional contact with a property(s) for you to consider as simple yes or no determines where I go from there.

Before I can start operations, I must have a broad contact list of real estate investors who will simply look at the property and tell me if they want it. No contract, No upfront money, No obligation to purchase on the investors part. It's pretty much a numbers game, the more investors I'm in contact with the quicker I can get rid of the properties. The less I take from the deal the quicker I'll will find an investor from my contact list who is willing to take the property.

I must apologize, I accidently left out a fact.

The properties will go through a realtor in your area, they will handle the transaction on my behalf (so I dont have to travel all over the US). the price offered to you will not change. But the property will resell very quickly producing a fast turn around. These properties will be part of a service that my company provides to buyers and home owners. As part of the agreement Me nor my company will be allowed to profit from the sale of a property (thats a limitation my company agrees) to inorder to remove a conflict of interest that would otherwise taint the trust between Menoz Corporation an Our client/homeowners. While we are prohibited from profiting on the resell, we can and must make every attempt to bring the property back into the program which will require the new owner (not investor) to become a member. The details regard this area of My company will remain confidential as require by the agreements we make to our clients.

what do I , bring to the table?
I'm yet another source you will have for finding good properties that will resell quicker than the average.

Now! since people want to know what I can bring, I must ask the same.

I haven't ask for:
money
contracts
or even an obligation

I've only ask that you give me a means to contact you and "make an offer" that you can certainly say no to.

since thats all I'm asking, What may I ask are you (Investors) bring to the table.

Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Mogul Lighthouse24 2,396 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
8. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 27, 2007 6:41 PM
in response to: Menoz~

What property (or client/homeowners) in my area would have access to that I wouldn't? What could you "bird dog" or "flush out" that nobody else here has been able to find?
Click to view Menoz~'s profile Professional Menoz~ 9 posts since
Dec 27, 2007
9. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 28, 2007 1:38 AM
in response to: Lighthouse24
What properties are you looking for
What qualifies as an opportunity for you

The only properties I can offer that nobody else can, are the ones I acquire.
I only used the Bird Dog analogy to represent the connection between myself and REI's.

I just want to establish a good list of contacts. If they don't want it "no problem" .
I'm betting that more times than not, it will be what they are looking for.

What type of properties are you looking for and how do you find them?
Click to view skeebee's profile Start-up skeebee 4 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
10. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Jan 2, 2008 2:09 PM
in response to: Menoz~
Menoz it sounds to me like you want contact information. The first question for me is how do I know that you arent simply building a list of contacts for sale or for some other purpose? We dont have any real information about you. How do I know you are not another scam artist or real estate "guru" attempting to sell me your next gimmick/training package? Do you have a website that tells me more or would make me feel comfortable giving you my contact information? Do you have any business references that that I can contact?

What kind of business model are you using? Are you wholeselling properties and assigning contracts? Do you acquire the property only after you know you will have an investor to purchase it from you. Are you sure what you are doing legal in all 50 states?

These are just a few of the questions I have off the top of my head.
Click to view Menoz~'s profile Professional Menoz~ 9 posts since
Dec 27, 2007
11. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Jan 2, 2008 2:48 PM
in response to: skeebee
www.menoz.com

The Information is limited at the moment as the site is under development.

Incorporated in the State of Kansas http://www.accesskansas.org/srv-corporations/getRecord.do?number=6212146

What am I doing,
Working to develop a homeowner based community to provide services to other home owners.
Issues; foreclosure, debt relief, real estate investment, and yet another but hopefully more supportive community training for members and visitors.

The wesite is not ready but exists and will develop further as a community not a get rich quick gateway.
hopefully members will simply not permit it from becoming a portal of sale pitches and scam artists.
the goal is to only market the community and the benefit of being a member.

Thanks for asking,
I hope you can benefit from the community's startup or later once it is established.
Click to view lawrebel1's profile Start-up lawrebel1 4 posts since
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12. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Jan 2, 2008 3:23 PM
in response to: DomainDiva
Hi,

Sorry for the delay in my reply. Please go to www.epropertyinvestors.com (this site is still under construction so please dont expect to much)

Regads,
stephen strydom 646.593.5127
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13. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Jan 2, 2008 3:37 PM
Menoz~ SCORE helps business people FREE. You can visit a SCORE office and talk to a counselor, or go online. SCORE solves problems, helps you develop a Business and Marketing Plans and helps you succeed.
LUCKIEST
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14. Re: Looking for Investors, real estate related, not asking for money. Dec 26, 2008 1:00 PM
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