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Click to view coffee times's profile Professional coffee times 11 posts since
Dec 11, 2007
15. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 11, 2007 10:32 AM
in response to: NatOnline
hi, i'm new at this and not very good on the computer but i need to learn to network and this is a good place to start. i have a small coffee shop just 10mins outside asheville nc its been in business for two years its not been easy either. since i opened a bunch of corp business have opened around me like vultures waiting to strike it rich. now that i'm still here they are starting to close all around me. score has not helped me a bit even though i have tried with them several times. the chamber of commerce has not either matter of fact they had flat out told customers you don't want to go there its to far from town really now what is that. either i'm stupid or just determined. i just found out that a local bbq place is opening in the store next door this is great it will bring lots of business to an end of town that has lots of money but very little knowledge of whats around them these kind of people is what builds a business if you can get them to your door. i have tried several kinds of marketing but it only works while paying lots of money for it and only during the duration your doing it so its not worth it. the only thing i have found that works is word of mouth. but in these crazy days of economic problems thats a big problem people are set in there ways and places like mc, cracker barrel etc its hard people are afraid their kids toys are from china what about the food they eat. i serve a healthy menu no fried foods organic coffees etc. and its still hard. what small local business needs to do is brand themselves but score or chambers etc don't teach you this and this is the hardest thing out there. so i thrive on word of mouth with my case its my cake and the awards i won for them. still its not enough richer people want more than what they pay for and thats hard image to keep up with. so help me out too.
Click to view CorpCons08's profile Mogul CorpCons08 1,128 posts since
Nov 14, 2007
16. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 11, 2007 3:31 PM
in response to: coffee times
coffeetimes,

I commend you for your effort and persistency. Do you have any local business owner networking groups? There are nationwide organizations that meet once a week to exchange their services with each other and you may benefit from such a program? Another idea would be to have some kind of special that none of your competition can compete with. Maybe a special flavored coffee or holiday dessert or something. People flock to things that they cannot get anywhere else.

CorpCons08
Click to view puzzleman's profile Mogul puzzleman 293 posts since
Oct 11, 2007
17. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 14, 2007 6:55 PM
Dao Marketing,

I don't know about the answers to your first two questions but for number 3, my suggestion is to try Craigslist.com. I have posted employment ads for seasonal part time employees and have been very successful. Another resource to try is Goodwill. They have employment counselors that can set you up with what you are looking for. Have also been successful with them as well. Plus they are still feeding me applicants even though I am not in need any longer. Still taking them as you never know when the diamond will show up.
Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,935 posts since
Aug 6, 2007
18. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 15, 2007 12:55 PM
in response to: Dao Marketing
Network marketing is great. We support and use Prepaid Legal Services.
We also promotion the service at our SCORE Workshops.
LUCKIEST
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
19. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 15, 2007 11:24 PM
in response to: coffee times
I hear you and I found some commun issues with the Chamber of Commerce which will bring you nothing.

I will give you an example of what I have experimented with them when I was photographer, graphic design, and print broker. When I was member I asked kindly to display my brochures on a big brochures spot for members companies. I gave them around 100 copies, 2 weeks later my brochures were not their, and I asked why. The lady at the front desk was telling me that before to put my brochures, I needed to wait a free spot, 6 months later, my brochures were not there. I did in 1 year a one job for a member but nothing terrific. never had a recommendation by telephone, nothing. Paying for this kind of networking when all the new members are looking for business and not giving business, then old members are already set with companies they are working for a long time. I sent thousands brochures to members with no results, then send brochures to companies in Yellow Pages with a lot of results for free. No it wasn't a problem with my brochure but rather with this networking.

To help you I recommend you to make a fidelity card with rubber stamps, when a customer comes to the 10th time offer them the 11th coffee for free, also try to do a little menu with a coupon of $1 so people can bring it to work and talk to co-workers about your business, another thing, if you can create a delivery service with a minimum of $...it would be a plus.

Hope you will find this helpful,

Good luck
Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,935 posts since
Aug 6, 2007
20. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 16, 2007 9:27 AM
in response to: coffee times
Coffee times, Good luck, As you said " the only thing i have found that works is word of mouth"
Word of mouth is the BEST and least expense form of advertising. It sounds like you are a survivor.
Other businesses come and go, yet you are still there.
I like Nat On Line answer. Giving out a card and the 10 one is FREE. (my wife loves that)
I am a SCORE Counselor and sorry you did not get good results. Please try again. You can also contact
SCORE online and reach out to MANY SCORE Counselors online. We all have different answers.
Hope this helps, LUCKIEST
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
21. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 16, 2007 1:49 PM
in response to: LUCKIEST
People love to get things for free, this is the best advertisement you can do for your company ;-)
Click to view stillbrowns's profile Start-up stillbrowns 1 posts since
Dec 16, 2007
22. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 16, 2007 3:50 PM
in response to: coffee times
Coffee...you stated that your business isn't in an active part of your community, but it sounds like you offer a product that many people may be interested in. Have you thought about providing a service where you bring your product to other local businesses? You could provide refreshment at local gallery showings, small business meetings, to doctor's offices as a gift from the pharmaceutical reps....I think there is a market for you, it just may be in a place that you aren't looking.
Click to view Healthy Girl's profile Professional Healthy Girl 7 posts since
Oct 27, 2007
23. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 16, 2007 6:44 PM
Pre-Paid Legal has a credible service that makes legal assistance possible for people who otherwise could not afford it. Be cautious about the marketing structure for yourself, though, as the distributor. In times past, the product was great for the customer, lucrative for the attorneys, but many distributors felt ripped off. Exorbitant debt was built right into the marketing structure. It looked like you were making great money on the surface, but you were really creating great debt to the company. I've heard that the marketing structure has changed, but I'm not familiar with the changes that have been made. Hopefully it's much improved. Just FYI

As for finding a website to find distributors, try http://www.UltimateSuccessCDs.com Tracy Biller sells MLM leads and shows you how to use them. He provides general training for MLM distributors Might be worth looking into.

Hope this is helpful,
Healthy Girl
Click to view hagget's profile Start-up hagget 3 posts since
Dec 18, 2007
24. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 18, 2007 4:59 PM
in response to: coffee times
Dear Coffee Times,
Sometimes free coffee can generate a few heads which they will tell someone else you offer free coffee from time to time. Find out local businesses and offer free coffee to employees and catch a few sporting games in community with advertised t-shirts offering coffee too. Advertise on your car that you are established offering free coffee to anyone watching you sign on car. Keep it simple and watch your competition and learn a few eye candy advertising at best. Location is tops and aggressive tactics can help too. Invite the local politician, chief of police, fire marshall, etc. for free coffee with a one meal that you know they will talk about for days to peers. Everyone isn't healthy eaters just talkers. Keep community relations open most of your business because people remember people not just the food. On election time donate a few meals to the seniors who's been in the community for 50 years they know everybody or enough people to invite a lunch or dinner gathering at your business. A few birthday parties for your children friends will help too.
Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Mogul Lighthouse24 2,396 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
25. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 19, 2007 2:24 AM
in response to: Healthy Girl

Healthy Girl, have you personally used Pre-Paid Legal, i.e., did you enroll as a member (not an associate) and pay the annual fee -- and then use the service as a member to obtain legal assistance? Thanks for responding.
Click to view Dao Marketing's profile Professional Dao Marketing 14 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
26. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 19, 2007 2:17 PM
in response to: Lighthouse24
Lighthouse do you have a personal grudge against Pre-Paid Legal?
Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Mogul Lighthouse24 2,396 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
27. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 20, 2007 1:23 AM
in response to: Dao Marketing
DaoMarketing: No. Why do you ask?
Click to view Dao Marketing's profile Professional Dao Marketing 14 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
28. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 20, 2007 1:25 PM
in response to: Lighthouse24
Hi Lighthouse24, well you said in the forum on employee benefits that you felt the plan had little or no value ans that you would tell your employees not to use it. Have you or someone you know been a member and had a bad experience if so i would like to know.
Thank you in advance.
Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Mogul Lighthouse24 2,396 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
29. Re: The good and bad of Network Marketing Dec 20, 2007 4:53 PM
in response to: Dao Marketing

The comment to which you refer was not in this thread, but in another post where you asked all business owners in this community for their opinion of pre-paid legal services (and where you urged us to purchase it as a critical "life saving" benefit for our employees).

In response, I offered my opinion: that I would not use it myself, nor recommend it to my employees. That opinion is not based on past experience as a user or member, but it IS based on facts provided by the company itself to the Securities and Exchange Commission (public record) as well as on information published by consumer groups and the state Attorney General. Even so, I did not present any of those facts to this community -- I merely stated my opinion.


Does that address your question or concern?

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