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Let's see... after years of paying horrendous taxes at the local, state and federal level people have just now figured it out now that the government is moving away from the right wing special interest groups....

If the 'tea parties' had really been to protest taxes, they are years too late and some of the messages too horrid to be believed. Personally I was disgusted.

The Congress & Senate passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, page 262 gives a get out of jail card free for the operation of bucket shops.

I personally am sick of this administration being blamed for all the problems we face now...go back to the last days of the Clinton Administration, Alan Greenspan as Fed Chief and AIG as the golden boy of insurance companies.

If we the people were really as concerned about all this as we say we are.....things would be a lot different. If people would have yowled at the tops of their lungs in 2000, the bill would have been repealed or not reached a vote and we would not be in the mess we are in now.

The political system works in this country...too bad more people cannot get used to that. If a person wants to make a fuss and make a difference that's fine, but until we as citizens start making our voices heard with emails and phone calls to our elected officials, local state and federal, it will be the same old thing. All the people in DC want is to be re-elected. So maybe we should make their re-eleection contingent upon them doing what we want them to do since this is a representative form of government, (though it does not always work that way).

I remember telling one of our senators from Texas that I would sooner vote for a West Texas rattler than vote for her since she voted for the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. If she runs again for whatever office, senator, dog catcher or governor, I will make my sign, and hand out copies of the bill that she voted for that legalized gambling with mortgage securities and scream to high heaven: Vote for the West Texas Rattler!!!

Think it is like 3-card monte. If the feds reduce taxes - states and counties cry and say they have to increase park fees and local taxes - then feds increase. They passed laws where the banks have to have APR to know what ALL the interest on a loan is - they ought have an APR for taxes.

Far too many going to too many places. I remember when parks were free for those that can't afford yards and playgrounds. Now the more affluent take over the good ones with parking fees and entry fees.

Don't think any of us know just what our tax burden is - unfortunately...

Hi Michael,

It is good food for thought - I wouldn't have replied otherwise

I do have to disagree with you, though. I don't think we are losing the American Dream! I think the Dream is a little bit clouded right now, because things are difficult, but we aren't losing it. This is just a test, and those who persevere will see their efforts rewarded in the long run. There will always be hangers-on and lowlifes who want to get a free ride, just as there alway has been.

I do agree that we need to fix the political system. Our current two party system and unlimited terms has resulted in a political aristocracy that is beyond ridiculous - a system where the politicians are interested solely in their own selves, getting re-elected and filling their pockets and campaign coffers. Representing the people who elected them is the least important thing to them, rather than the most, and that simply has to change.

The problem is, the vast majority of Americans are uneducated politically or completely apathetic. Less than half the population even bothers to vote, and most of those that do vote do so based on what someone else tells them to do like their church leaders rather than based on intelligent and educated information on the issues and candidates.


Again you repeat this comment - do you really understand what that even means? I don't think you do. Again, I would suggest you take a bit of time to actually research socialism and understand what it is, what it means. Then you would see that what is happening today, what President Obama is proposing to bring this country around is far, far from socialism.


Ever heard the saying "You have to spend money to make money"?

Clinton left office and we had a balanced budget and a surplus. Bush left office with a record deficit and record spending, after dragging this country so far into the hole with "off the books" spending, irresponsible social programs that had absolutely zero results, not to mention the war that he got us into for no reason that has resulted in trillions of dollars of money spent with absolutely no results other than a fake declaration of "Mission Accomplished".

Yeah, we're going to have to spend some money to sort things out and get us back on track. It would definitely help if people could focus on actually FIXING the problems and the future, rather than trying to block solutions out of stupid partisan political reasons. Instead of actually trying to help the problem, instead they cause more. They can't even propose their own solutions, they only tear apart and obstruct, in a stupid childish game of "if we can't be in charge then nothing will get done".