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13 Replies Last post: Jan 23, 2010 1:21 PM by bastron06

How to start an investment club?

Nov 18, 2007 11:50 AM

Click to view TOO-LATE's profile Start-up TOO-LATE 4 posts since
Nov 18, 2007
I personally enjoy investing stocks and I've been accumulating experience for a long while. I have a blog and sharing my buying and selling transaction and explanations. Now I want to set up a investment club to gather more people to discuss the stocks. What do I need to do?
I've heard of there is fee for membership which I can make some profit of it.
Do I need some partners?
any qualifications required?
do I need a website for the investment club?
do i need to register it?

I'm sophemore in college and finance major.
Currently, I've seen many people complains about the stocks in their porfolio is all red and now they are looking for some recommended stocks from other people. I believe its time to do this business and the same time I can become a more sophsticated investor.
Your opinion is greatly appreciated!
My blog
http://investment-blog.net
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1. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 12:05 PM
Starting an investment club O K
There are many steps involved in getting an investment club up and
running, most of them are relatively straightforward.
Start talking with friends and see who's interested. It's best
to gather a variety of people who will bring to the club a variety of
interests, experiences, and perspectives. Once you find a few
interested friends, let them invite a few of their own friends. Aim to
form a club with roughly 6 to 15 members.

The people in the investment club should be the ones to research and recommended stocks.
Good luck, LUCKIEST

Click to view Ed O'Gee's profile Mogul Ed O'Gee 215 posts since
Oct 25, 2007
2. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 12:38 PM
The first step is to get members. Talk to friends, family and other like minded people. Then once you have the members you guys will need to incorporate and develop the bylaws that will govern the investment club. They you'll likely have to make the decision on if you'll select your own investment or enlist the help of a broker.
Click to view TOO-LATE's profile Start-up TOO-LATE 4 posts since
Nov 18, 2007
3. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 1:23 PM
in response to: LUCKIEST
Thank you, but do I require to register the investment club into state gov't with my brand name?
and how?
my investment club is setup into a website or what?
i need some specific detail of how to get it running. im seeking for the partners.
Click to view Mozart's profile Founders Mozart 31 posts since
Jul 28, 2007
4. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 3:07 PM

Congratulations for your entrepreneurial spirit! Before you start an business endeavor it's important to carefully evaluate the competitive landscape and understand how you would differenciate your business. For example, have you checked out all the existing resources out there that provide investment related information without a fee? What would differenciate your website/services/club? Good luck.
Click to view slavaret's profile Mogul slavaret 78 posts since
Oct 26, 2007
5. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 3:56 PM
I believe the purpose of an investment club is to buy and sell stocks that members select collectively.

So the first thing you need is startup capital contributed by all members to fund a brokerage account. I would check with the IRS or an accountant to see what the rules are and what you can and cannot do. I would think it's OK to charge a small membership fee as long as it cannot be construed as a management fee. I am also sure members would want to have the terms of capital contribution, profit and loss sharing, and withrawals in writing.

There are many successful investment strategies. Your club members should share the same one - or you will never agree on a sigle stock.

If, on the other hand, all you want is to discuss stocks, setting up a group on Yahoo or Google will do.
Click to view TOO-LATE's profile Start-up TOO-LATE 4 posts since
Nov 18, 2007
6. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 5:18 PM
in response to: slavaret
thanks for your opinion.
First, I will post a page at my blog for seeking partners for my investment club.
second, I will list all the step to get my club runing. e.g after have enough partners, i will advertize my club through google, yahoo, or msn.
club rules, positions.
meeting schedules...
Can I setup my club into a blog(new one) where I only authroized people can see the contents.
Is that possible?
any more comments?
Click to view TOO-LATE's profile Start-up TOO-LATE 4 posts since
Nov 18, 2007
7. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 5:20 PM
in response to: slavaret
Can I divide all revenue to each of my partners according to how much club members have contrubuted?
I will be attract members through google ads...
Click to view DomainDiva's profile Founders DomainDiva 1,763 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
8. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 5:52 PM

There are IRS documents that you must prepare with all names, SS #'s and the PURPOSE of the club. The online brokers have a section for investment clubs and you can download all the documents you need from the website. Then you must fund the account and decide WHO gets to place trades. You will also need an internal specification detailing HOW the club is to be run, % of profit splits etc.
Click to view MetroGal's profile Mogul MetroGal 101 posts since
Oct 20, 2007
9. Re: How to start an investment club? Nov 18, 2007 6:26 PM
A lot of great businesses have started right out of college dorms. You are at the head of the pack by participating on this website for advice. Welcome and good luck with your endeavor. It doesn't sound like you're "too late."
Click to view bastron06's profile Authority bastron06 9 posts since
Jan 21, 2010
10. Re: How to start an investment club? Jan 22, 2010 3:00 PM
Hi Too-Late,

I just saw your post and since I recently started my investment club, I thought I'd share some valuable information I found out along the way.

Everyone responding seems to have the gist of what is required. I only want to add:
1. Investment clubs provide no liability protection to the members. E.g. when tax times comes, if everyone does not pay their individual share of taxes on the gains, the club as a whole will be held liable for any back taxes not paid. I thought this was really important.
2. If you want to make money from this venture, that means you're classified as being paid for your services to the club (stock recommendations, decisions, trade executions, etc...). If you are compensated, some states mandate you become a registered investment advisor (RIA). To become an RIA, you need to take a pass the series 65 exam, adminstered by FINRA. You may need to fulfill some additional state requirements. If you plan to solicit investors to become members that aren't family and friends, they will probably want to know if you're registered to do what you say you "CAN" do, which is make money with a pool of other individuals money.
3. I'm with OptionsXpress, Inc. They have low fees for trades. I specialize in option and option spreads. If you need an online broker that's relatively cheap, may I suggest them?
4. Get an EIN from the IRS. Your investment club will be recognized by the IRS as a general partnership. You'll also want to know what the IRS expects from the club concerning filing.
5. I don't have officers in my club. I take care of all management decisions and trading. I structured to Partnership Agreement to say so. You may want to do something like that if you want to be responsible for the stocks that are selected for the club to invest their resources.

I don't want to belabor the point, but if you're interested in anything I might be able to provide, just let me know.
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11. Re: How to start an investment club? Jan 22, 2010 3:41 PM
in response to: MetroGal

Yes great start and I always appreciate learniing things like this too.
Click to view obijuan's profile Start-up obijuan 1 posts since
Jan 23, 2010
12. Re: How to start an investment club? Jan 23, 2010 12:19 PM
in response to: bastron06

I too am looking to start an investment club, so I appreciate all the responses. I had a few questions of my own:

1. Is there any preference to what business structure is used for this club? I am leaning towards a LLC, with the intention of eventually paying officers some compensation for managing the club.
2. If these officers are performing operational duties for this club (e.g., accounting) and receive compensation, do they need to be an RIA and register with the state/federal government even when that compensation is nonperformance-based -- i.e., no relevance to profits/losses?
3. Is there a limit to how much and how often contributions can be made?

Thanks again!
Click to view bastron06's profile Authority bastron06 9 posts since
Jan 21, 2010
13. Re: How to start an investment club? Jan 23, 2010 3:00 PM
in response to: obijuan
The structure would depend on which state you form in. E.g. in Texas, forming a LLP requires a registration of each partner, and renewal annually. So if you start off with 10 members, you have to pay $200/ member. If the club grows, every year, you have to pay $200/member for all the members in the club. VERY STIFF!!. The investment club is going to be a general partnership (that's a given) You must let the IRS know whether you want the club to be recognized as an LLP or LLC or maintain its general partnership status.

LLC would more than likely be the way to go.

If you are paying anyone in your club for advisory services, such as, stock selection or research, then yes, they must be registered. Some people get away with not registering because the members of the club aren't really pushing them to. But if you want to attract other investors that don't know you, they'll want to know you're legitimate at what you do. Being registered is considered some sort of validation. Depending on the size of the money being managed will dictate if you need to register with at the Fed level. In TX, under $25 million and you don't need to register federally, however, I do need to register at the state level. Check with your state securities board. They should have a website that can give you better direction.

There is absolutely no limit of how much and when contributions are made. You can set up your requirements in your Club partnership agreement. In my club, there was a one time contribution to make everyone feel comfortable with the idea of allowing me to manage the fund. The success of the fund will make the decision of contributing more easier, I hope, for the club members. But I don't mandate a monthly contribution.