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Click to view Kjlawrence63's profile Mogul Kjlawrence63 35 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
15. Re: Angel Investors Oct 13, 2008 4:59 PM
in response to: Lighthouse24
Thank you for your help and advice Lighthouse24, it is appreciated.

I have also come across a new website if you care to take a look. This will benefit many new business owners who are trying to find a start-up capital. I have registered our company in the hope to find an investor. I hope this will help out many more of you on this site.

www.fundability.com

30 days free trial $24.99 a month there after. The site helps new business owners and investors come together without having to pay the enormous up from fees that other companies charge just to find an investor for you.

Hope this helps.

Kathryn
Click to view macklamm's profile Authority macklamm 9 posts since
Oct 13, 2008
16. Re: Angel Investors Oct 13, 2008 6:35 PM
in response to: Kjlawrence63
make sure you also sign an NDA with the other before you proceed with anything or give anyone your business plan - no matter who they are

investor angels are there but at the moment the credit crisis has stopped a lot of investment in new start ups

your business is luxury goods? find out what the market is like now from competitors etc
Click to view GrowthCurve's profile Mogul GrowthCurve 152 posts since
Jan 25, 2008
17. Re: Angel Investors Oct 13, 2008 6:54 PM
in response to: Kjlawrence63
I think you're asking for way too much money for a start-up, and I don't see how you can possibly expect to be in business for this upcoming holiday season.

You need to do a set of financial projections that show various milestones as you grow, indicating how much capital you need at each milestone to move on to the next.

If you are still in the concept stage, then you are probably looking for money just to build the infrastructure to get started. Then you'll look for dollars to start marketing and actually generate revenue (proof of concept). Then you'll look for dollars to grow what you've started. And so on.

You're not getting $4.5 million on Day One. And if you were, you'd be giving up 90+% of the company, as it's highly unlikely (oh, let's just call it impossible) that your valuation will be anywhere near, let alone higher than, $5 million.

I'll be candid...I don't get this business. It's a discount eBay for luxury items? You don't think eBay couldn't just come in and pound you into oblivion? And do you really think that there are that many people willing to sell high priced items online? And buy them? Who buys something for $10,000 online sight unseen? I know it happens, but enough to make a business out of?

Also, if you get 1,000 transactions at $20 each, that's $20,000 in revenue, not profit.
Click to view Kjlawrence63's profile Mogul Kjlawrence63 35 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
18. Re: Angel Investors Oct 13, 2008 10:26 PM
in response to: GrowthCurve
Thank you for your input. We have everything set and ready for investment capital, this includes: business plan, milestones, projections, market analysis, etc.

eBay = $6 million investment
Wigix = $5.5 million investment

We have a service in place that will hold transactions as a third party and wait till the Buyers are satisfied with the transaction. Once the Buyer has the item, the money is released. We are looking to protect our clients by putting in these safeguards. So no, it is not sight unseen.

You don't get the business? Really?

eBay can't touch what we have in place and there is no way that I am going to explain to you how on an open forum.

Thank you for your comment anyway.

BTW, Profit = Type-O.
Click to view GrowthCurve's profile Mogul GrowthCurve 152 posts since
Jan 25, 2008
19. Re: Angel Investors Oct 13, 2008 11:28 PM
in response to: Kjlawrence63

There's no way to put this without sounding arrogant about it, but you're comparing apples to oranges when you discuss your capital formation needs and compare them to eBay.

eBay had already been in business for about two years when Benchmark put in the first $5 million venture capital investment in eBay. I'm willing to wager that the company already had customers, employees, and revenue -- proof of concept -- before the $5 million went in. I'm also willing to wager that there was already a good slug of capital in there from founders and angels. In other words, they didn't go from a business plan to getting $5 million overnight.

Morever, you're discussing a one-in-a-million investment made in the frothy days of 1997, when getting venture capital was a whole lot easier than it is today.

I appreciate and applaud your belief in your business, but I do think that you need to collaborate with someone on the capital formation part...someone who can bring some current market expertise on how these kinds of deals do -- and don't -- get done.
Click to view stingrayriley's profile Authority stingrayriley 12 posts since
Sep 25, 2008
20. Re: Angel Investors Oct 29, 2008 2:59 PM
in response to: Kjlawrence63
Kathryn

Nope I have not, had many inquires but nothing solid yet. Then for the most part it is people worried over the market in loom of a possible recession. And not knowing if it worth risking their money in. I know for me I have a car rental venture I have been pushing for months and even has a website and when I see emails in my box for people looking to make reservations it is a hard thing to have to turn away revenue cause of no real investors.or invetor.

Tho I did have a guy already in business looking now to buy a franchise of this company.

Good luck in your search

Happy Venture

Tim Riley

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Jan 25, 2009
21. Re: Angel Investors Jan 25, 2009 6:31 PM
in response to: Kjlawrence63
Have you found any investors for your idea?
Click to view DomainDiva's profile Mogul DomainDiva 1,731 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
22. Re: Angel Investors Jan 25, 2009 7:34 PM
in response to: Kjlawrence63
Just a thought here....are you familiar with bluefly.com? Luxury items for sale at discounts. Maybe they would be interested in a partnership with you to help fund your site and take a percentage.

Partnerships for start ups can be great I have partnered with two other firms to get our product going.
Click to view stingrayriley's profile Authority stingrayriley 12 posts since
Sep 25, 2008
23. Re: Angel Investors Jan 25, 2009 8:05 PM
in response to: glory.to.God
No Glory I have not Yet .
Click to view Kjlawrence63's profile Mogul Kjlawrence63 35 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
24. Re: Angel Investors Jan 26, 2009 9:56 AM
in response to: DomainDiva
I have been to the site once before but that is a very good idea..I will certainly consider it as we have not yet had any luck with finding a angel investor to help us fund our website. Thank you DomainDiva, your help is appreciated. :-)

What is your product if you don't mind me asking and how long did it take you to get your business going?
We can chat in a private email if you would prefer.
Click to view DomainDiva's profile Mogul DomainDiva 1,731 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
25. Re: Angel Investors Jan 26, 2009 10:15 AM
in response to: Kjlawrence63
Please check my profile. My biz info is there.

To explain in a nutshell: (hatip IWrite...)

Our application retains aircraft maintenance reocrds. If you have seen tho Whoopie Goldberg movie "the Associate', you may remember that Whoopies character had a 'box' of papers and notes. One day she came to the office and could not find 'the box'. Her assistant showed her how she had put 'the contents of the box' on the computer.

All Whoopis character could say was: "YOU PUT THE BOX ON THE COMPUTER??"

That is what we have done literally. Virtual BOX with information AND visual compliance data on the computer. Our website address is on the profile as well. Our application is all visually managed and we have NO search technology. Yet everything is right there available. Sign in and two clicks to your data.

As bad as business is for everyone...Bluefly needs to move merchandise, trust me they already have a huge markup on this stuff as well, even though are are selling at a discount.

GO FOR IT.
Click to view Kjlawrence63's profile Mogul Kjlawrence63 35 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
26. Re: Angel Investors Jan 26, 2009 1:23 PM
in response to: DomainDiva
Thank you DomainDiva,

We will definitely get that started. That is a great idea. I just need to get in contact with all our users so that they can re-list all their items. I know they want our company to work especially a couple from Ukraine who have their own Art Gallery.

www.mryess.org - They have around 40-50 sculptures and paintings which they want to sell and they're creating more.

Our business plan has also been altered so hopefully we will have more luck.

Kathryn
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