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17 Replies Last post: Sep 27, 2009 4:39 PM by GitaFaust

Large Quickbooks File

Aug 12, 2008 9:07 AM

Click to view dougkoli's profile Start-up dougkoli 1 posts since
Aug 12, 2008
We have been in business for over nine years. We just started to have a problem with Quickbooks. According to the support people, our file is too big. They tell me that the file should be under 150000 Kb and my file is 357000 kb. We condensed the file and it is now 337000Kb. Does anyone have any answers to help? The support people suggested that I purchase a large version of Quickbooks (Enterprise Edition) which is very costly. We only need two to three licenses and you have to purchase 5 with the new edition. the cost of the new edition is $3,000 plus $750 per year. I would appreciate any possible solutions. Thanks.
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1. Re: Large Quickbooks File Aug 12, 2008 11:25 AM
Large Quickbooks File

Doug, Lets start with the knowledge that Quickbooks is designed for the Small Business Owner.
Also if you talk to support, they will try and sell you NEW (like a car sales person).

One or two suggestions. One, Get more memory for your system.

Two, Check out the "utilities". On some of the systems, the utilities will let you delete inactive
customers and venders or make them inactive freeing up space.

Good luck, LUCKIEST
Click to view 00ZULU00's profile Authority 00ZULU00 14 posts since
Jun 3, 2008
2. Re: Large Quickbooks File Aug 18, 2008 11:02 AM
How many years of information are you keeping active? Do you have all 9 years of information in your file? You can archive some of the information that you don't need as readily (say before 2005 or 2006) and it will reduce your file size.

Let me know if this is a possible solution and we can discuss further.

Regards,

00ZULU00
Click to view geekoid's profile Start-up geekoid 1 posts since
Sep 22, 2008
3. Re: Large Quickbooks File Sep 22, 2008 2:33 PM
As a rule of thumb, it is a best practice to have no more than 3 years of data in a QuickBooks Pro or Premier file. A file size larger than 250 MB should really be upgraded to Enterprise Solutions. Putting more memory in your computer won't make Pro or Premier any faster, as the performance is lower in these editions compared to Enterprise. Also, doing a "Clean up company file" or "Archive and Condense" does not remove transactions (just converts them to Journals) and it doesn't reduce the file size significantly to improve performance.

Brett Barry
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Click to view Santa Fe CPA's profile Mogul Santa Fe CPA 67 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
4. Re: Large Quickbooks File Sep 22, 2008 5:18 PM
First, I suggest that you inactivate all vendors and customers records that show no actiivity in the past 5 years.
Second, you should perform the purge function in your system. You should also have upgraded you system to the 2008 Version (2009 is about to be released.)
This should clean up your file such that it runs at a reasonable speed.
I am a Certified QuickBooks Professional .
Click to view Accting_Svcs's profile Professional Accting_Svcs 3 posts since
Oct 1, 2008
5. Re: Large Quickbooks File Oct 2, 2008 4:00 PM
First make sure that you have a good back up of your company file.

Then you will need to decide how many years that you would like to have on hand with full detail, i.e. checks, bills, invoices, payments, etc... I usually recommend at least 3 years. The remaining years you can archive the files to where you still have all of the old information but is is all in monthly summary journal entries. To do this you will go to file...Utilities...Clean up Company data...and follow dirrections thru the wizard, this will create an archive of your company file. In your case it may take a few hours for this to complete, I usually recommend that this be done overnight so that it is ready for use when you come in the next day. Once this is complete you should see some difference in the speed and ability to use QuickBooks again. (Looks as though you may have done this already)

If this does not solve your problem then you will need to look at what version of QuickBooks you are on, I am guessing Pro or Premier and possibly upgrading to QuickBooks Enterprise as the support person advised. As far as the cost, yes there is the 5 licenses but you may can go to your accountant and see if they have a QuickBooks Proadvisor on staff that can order this for you. If this is the case then you can receive a up to a 15% discount on the cost of the product ( I am an accountant / ProAdvisor and I provide this to my clients along with many other accounting and software services). Also the cost of $750 per year is to upgrade to the newest version, which is cheaper than purchasing a new product but this is not required.

Outside of these two possibilities I think that there is not much that you can do with QuickBooks and you may need to look at going another route. With accounting software just be careful and research what you get to ensure that the new product can handle your load and also that it will handle the load until you are ready to change again. At the level you are at yes QuickBook is good but you need to look what version is the correct fit and will I outgrow the software before it's time. Most products that can carry the capacity that you are referring to is very costly, such as NetSuite Small Business that is a web based software but this will run you approximately $1000 to $1500 per user per year. This is a great software and can handle large amounts of data with no problem but again is costly.

If you have any other questions please let me know and I will be glad to answer them if I can.
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Jan 13, 2009
6. Re: Large Quickbooks File Jan 13, 2009 11:59 AM

There are several ways to fix your problem
1. Start a new file and export all the lists to the new file and create a Starting Journal Entry, Re-enter All AP, AR.. You will still be able to open the old file for history data.
2. Archive and Condense the file with selecting the appropriate boxes to delete inactive customers, vendors, etc.

3. Purchase the new version of QB Enterprise Edition. Not sure you need this if you have used QB for 9 years in the same file.

Call if you have questions,

ATD Solutions LLC
QuickBooks Advisors
jkopp@atdsolutions.com
Ph: 248-620-1177

Click to view wb1234's profile Professional wb1234 3 posts since
Jan 17, 2009
7. Re: Large Quickbooks File Jan 17, 2009 2:21 PM
in response to: QB_Doctor
I have a similar problem, perhaps someone can suggest a solution. I use QB Pro 2006, and My file at 70MB is not too large or unmanageable.

It's just old.

It dates back to 1997 (12 years). I had financial problems back in 2002 (who didn't?) and shrank and focused my company. Since that time I generate 1/10th the invoices. So 95% of my accounting system, my chart of Accounts and Items list, stand mostly as a reminder of old problems and past mistakes. I'd like to no longer look at them.

I've tried using the "Clean" utility with 12/31/2004 as a date, all options checked, but it doesn't remove any old invoices, checks, accounts or anything. In fact, I can't quite figure out what it DOES do.

Is there a way to Purge past transactions, and post totals as opening balances in 1/1/2005, such that my 1/1/2009 balance sheet won't change?

If I update QuickBooks will I get a version that allows me to Purge old years?
Click to view QB_Doctor's profile Authority QB_Doctor 10 posts since
Jan 13, 2009
8. Re: Large Quickbooks File Jan 17, 2009 3:34 PM
in response to: wb1234
Did you try to archive the data with all items checked. It won't get rid of chart of account names. However if you are looking to clean up your chart of accounts, customers list, vendor and employee list....then you need to go to the appropriate list. Right mouse click on the name, then with the left mouse click on the sub menu item call inactivate. Although you can't delete items completely you can get them off your main active list so that you don't see them anymore or are not reminded of them :-) ... Let me know if this helps.
Click to view wb1234's profile Professional wb1234 3 posts since
Jan 17, 2009
9. Re: Large Quickbooks File Jan 17, 2009 3:47 PM
in response to: QB_Doctor
Did you try to archive the data with all items checked.

I don't see an archive option. I did the "File>Utilties>Clean Company Data" but it didn't clean anything as far as I can see.

However if you are looking to clean up
...click on the sub menu item call
inactivate.

They've been inactive for 5 years. But the data is still there. If I hit Ctrl-Q and then All I can see all that old garbage, thousands of entries, just sitting there in my 2009 file.

What I need is a process that posts "beginning balance" entries as of 1/1/05, and then deletes everything prior.

Any chance of that, or might Intuit have added such a feature in newer versions? I found a service online that says they may be able to do it for "starting at $500". Also about 20 answers on Intuit forums that says at least through April 2008 the function doesn't exist...
Click to view roblew's profile Start-up roblew 1 posts since
Jan 22, 2009
10. Re: Large Quickbooks File Jan 22, 2009 4:13 PM
You May want to hire an accountant with kowledge about large Quickbooks File.
Click to view QB_Doctor's profile Authority QB_Doctor 10 posts since
Jan 13, 2009
11. Re: Large Quickbooks File Jan 24, 2009 10:23 AM
in response to: wb1234
.....What I need is a process that posts "beginning balance" entries as of 1/1/05, and then deletes everything prior.

Even when you clean the data or archive in older versions. It does not get rid of everything. Because there was a transaction associated with the item, customer, or vendor. You can't delete it. The only thing you can do is start a new QB file and transfer over the begining balances. Sorry. Hope this helps. :-)
Click to view wb1234's profile Professional wb1234 3 posts since
Jan 17, 2009
12. Re: Large Quickbooks File Jan 26, 2009 9:05 AM
in response to: QB_Doctor
Because there was a transaction associated with the item, customer, or
vendor. You can't delete it [using qb automated processes].

Thanks for the confirmation. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious. I wonder why they have their "Clean up company data" if it doesn't really work?

I'll look into the paid service I found online and see how that works.

It isn't reasonable to force customers to hold data forever, nor is it reasonable to force them to start over, and not have the benefit of my last five years data entry for sales comparison reports. I'm sure Intuit will fix this someday.
Click to view QB_Doctor's profile Authority QB_Doctor 10 posts since
Jan 13, 2009
13. Re: Large Quickbooks File Jan 26, 2009 10:51 AM
in response to: wb1234
Good luck and I'd love to hear if it works out for you. :-)
Click to view sechelt's profile Start-up sechelt 1 posts since
May 14, 2009
14. Re: Large Quickbooks File May 14, 2009 1:00 AM
We have the same issue, I came across a site that looks very good, am going to try it out, the software is $150 and looks like it does what I (and you) need - I have not used it yet so I can't say if it is any good.

http://www.q2q.us/How%20to%20start%20a%20new%20QuickBooks%20file.htm

Did you find a soultion?

Cheers
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