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Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
45. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 8:47 PM
in response to: Iwrite

Iwrite -

You are extremely right on this, and I am not being sarcastic at all.


It is an extremely sad existence to be afraid of people every where you go.


So do I allow this to be my defining characteristic?


I have no choice but it to be my defining characteristic, but at the same time, I will fight on every level to combat the very thing that has destroyed me on every level.


So what do I do? I try to do something good for myself, and society in general. I take the very thing that is ugly and makes me nothing and I use it to try and empower myself and others.


Have I succeeded? Yes I have, if only minimally.

I have been able to help a handful of organizations in what they do, so that they may help people or a cause.

How much do I charge?

Nothing.

When you have something that takes so much from your life every day, you must give back.

What is my alternative?

I understand your frustration and animosity that you have with me and my perspectives, much more then you will ever realize or understand.

The difference between you and me, is that you get to close your web browser and can leave it here on this website.

I close my web browser and it is with me, every where I go.

I do not choose to carry this burden, but I have no choice.

So I make do with what I have, and I continue to try.

So at least one day I can say...........

I had this horrible disease that took over my life, but through business and volunteerism, I was still able to do a tiny bit of good.

Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Mogul Lighthouse24 2,396 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
46. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 8:58 PM
in response to: intechspecial

Intechspecial, your own corporate website describes you as having "nothing to offer but negativity and depravation from society. On a day to day basis he thinks of nothing but himself and what he can do to make his life and his life only, better. Although (your name) has had a few substantial accomplishments, he still is nothing more then a flawed entity that drains all that might come in his path, as it really is "all about me".

Are you thinking someone else can "top" that in terms of defamation? Although I'm NOT a marketing guy, I can't see how that message to the world about you and your business is helping you attract clients or accomplish your stated objective.
Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Mogul Lighthouse24 2,396 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
47. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 8:59 PM

Within this community, Iwrite and I have disagreed WAY more than we have agreed -- yet I respect his viewpoint and professionalism, and believe he has always extended me the same courtesy. In the real world, we might like each other, then again we might not -- but I'll guarantee that, either way, we'd be able to work together toward a common business goal if the opportunity arose.

Professionalism and mutual respect are essential to developing a small business, and to finding one's place in a supportive community.
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Dec 29, 2007
48. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 9:21 PM
in response to: Lighthouse24
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
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49. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 9:22 PM
in response to: Lighthouse24

That is an extremely good question, and I am actually quite glad you asked.


If I might pre-empt this by saying that I use to hide that I have a disability from everyone. This is how I recieved the IT contracts with Cleveland Clinic, Department of Homeland Security, ADT securities, etc, etc, etc.


I thought that if I put my mind only on my work that I would overcome my disabled mind. It worked but only temporarily. The work was to much, and I became mentally sicker.


So I had to quit my efforts to work full time. I started my own company, "Integrity Technology Specialists". I thought hey I could own my own business and set my own hours, this way if I became sick, I could take time off and not affect anyones business but my own. My business at this point was a computer and repair business. I fought and struggled to develop any work. Finally I got a humongous break, and found a company that was going to sub contract me. My pay rate was up to $65/ hour. Initially it was done with relative ease, but in a short period of time, the travel and meeting people I did not know became to much for me to handle. I tried to subcontract work out to people, through a business associate. These were people that were also struggling(poverty, welfare system), but had a newly attained degree in Information Technology. They ones I subcontracted, failed on every level. The business that hired me as a sub contractor lossed a big client.

I still would not disclose my disabilty, and decided that considering my anxiety around people, it might be better for me to work from home only.

Hence a new dream(or delusion), was born. I then took my previous skills and experience and applied them to Web Development. I was able to develop a few clients(pro bono), but still had problems from my mental illness.

I continued to hide my disability in fear of societies response to me.

After having an extreme episode, I decided I had no choice but to disclose my disability.

So rather then saying to everyone "hey I am a great guy that will build a website for you for free", I decided to say "I am this really mentally sick guy that is trying to help society and give back when his disability takes so much".

The even bigger problem with this view point is that I am not alone. This "mental sickness" is in each and everyone one of us on some level.

The biggest problem is that most cannot even see they are a problem.

My website most certainly does say "nothing to offer but negativity and depravation from society. On a day to day basis he thinks of nothing but himself and what he can do to make his life and his life only, better. Although (your name) has had a few substantial accomplishments, he still is nothing more then a flawed entity that drains all that might come in his path, as it really is "all about me

This is not just me, it is human nature.

So my point in all of this is.........

If this insane monster has the ability to take responsibility and give back..............

why can't you?

At the same time, hopes of making an honest profit.

Not reality based?

For me, it is better to live this way then to live in reality.

I am what society calls " a mentally ill monster".

To make matters worse, I have a heart condition, sarcoidosis, asthma, severe sleep apnia, memory loss from several concussions, and a recent diagnosis of degenatarive disc disease.

This "delusion" of the idea I will ever be successful, gives me the ability to think and believe my life actually has real value, even though in my heart of hearts I feel it does not.

To make matters worse, I have passed on this wretched existence to my daughter, as at 12 years of age she has been diagnosed with a mental illness as well.

So it no longer becomes an option to not try and succeed. If I do not succeed, my daughter will be thrown into the public mental health system, which could have her drooling off of herself by the age of 25.

If I have the finances and abilities to accomplish business success, she can get GOOD PRIVATE help, and not the wretched public mental health that is provided.

So I will continue, without avail, on this "delusion" for a business, on the hopes that someday I might be successful.

Even if not, I have been given relief from the pain of my physcial ailments and my mental turmoil on a day to day basis.

As sick as I am I still want to accomplish something in my life other then "insanity".

Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
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50. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 9:33 PM
in response to: Lighthouse24
Lighthouse -

Since day one of my entering this community, you have offered a rebuttal and remark as to why I am wrong in everything I do.

You have stated that I have no abilities, yet offered encouragement, and at the same time pointed out how I will fail.

I have not one time seen you offer this level of professionalism to Iwrite, although many others have left the community because of this level of interaction.

So Iwrite and yourself have this level of professionalism that you offer yourselves within every post.

I also find it interesting that you have both recently stepped up this level of interaction as I have recently passed Iwrite on the leader board, and now I am catching you.

Through all of this, you are able to end the post with how I am being "attacking" or "aggressive" and it actually looks quite believable.

This thread was originally started to make a comment about changes in the web development industry.

Yet now it is a place to attack intechspecial.

Do as you must.
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
51. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 10:07 PM
in response to: Lighthouse24

Ok this has gone above and beyond, why must you continue on this level?
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
52. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 10:13 PM

Another thing that I have noticed in the changes of the industry is the change of technology advances.

Microsoft offers a new implementation, called silverlight, and is a great competitior to Adobe's flash.

It will take time before Silverlight is completely propogated through the internet, but when it does, the results will be completely unbelievable.

The 2008 olympics utilized Silverlight Streaming.

The internet is changing faster then we realize, and the new face of the internet is going to allow much more interactivity and a much more stunning grahpical enhancements.


What will your web design company do to adapt to these changes?

Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,101 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
53. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 10:15 PM
in response to: intechspecial
Lighthouse has given you a great suggestion for how to make a difference. How is that bad?
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
54. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 15, 2008 10:17 PM
in response to: Iwrite
As a way of combating Microsoft's Silverlight, adobe seems to have made some well thought out ideas to their products.

Silverlight may be the wave of the future, but Adobe is still the wave of today.
Click to view NuevolutionWD's profile Authority NuevolutionWD 18 posts since
Oct 19, 2008
55. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 24, 2008 3:20 AM
in response to: intechspecial
Intechspecial,
I don't think that the Web Design Industry is in trouble because of a simple WYSIWYG editor or because someone offers free templates. Remember, technology is changing every day and if you stay competitive in the web design industry you will succeed. Being Competitive means, changing your coding methodologies as fast as the industry changes. For example, lots of designers still use tables as their tool of choice to build web sites and other developers like myself prefer to work in a FULL CSS table-less architecture.

I think that the only way a company will suffer is if they don't care to change. As for the silverlight comment.. I don't think silverlight is going to stand the test of time... Adobe has been in the Industry for years and most designers are more familiar with Adobe that with MS Silverlight.

Just like with Microsoft expressions... More people prefer Dreamweaver over Expressions...
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
56. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Nov 24, 2008 4:25 AM
in response to: NuevolutionWD

Yes I agree completely. I did not go completely into details.

Another way to look at this is to think of terms of the "stand alone html designer".

To stay competitive you must have more then JUST html skills.

You have to be multi-faceted or high end at at least on main skill.

A designer must know CSS as you mentioned, but they also must understand how HTML and CSS fit in with a complete web application. You can no longer just understand the front end of development, you need to at the very least understand how the front end of HTML/CSS works out with the Back End- Server loaded code.


As far as tables, you are completey correct in your uderstanding of Tables from a "designer" point of view. Tables were made as a way to display server-side data with relative ease. Designers took this idea and would use it as a way to make complete statically loaded websites.


Tables do have their us today as well, as it is still the industry accepted method for displaying the backend server loaded code that is attached to a database, it is not possilbe to do otherwise. CSS is for the display of the "front end" of an interface, and has no relevance on the "back end" server loaded code. Take for example this site, the SBOC. Yes it is based in "tableless CSS" design. This is only referenicing the HTML and not the Dynamically loaded Java Server Page development. The dynamically loaded code is generated from a database formatted dependent on the users request or other information.

Let me try and explain a little simpler.
Go to this site: www.intechspecial.com Click on a tab at the top. Click the same tab at the top. The result is? The same exact page no matter how many times you click.
Now go to this site: www.freeits.net Click on a link at the top. Click on the same link. The result is? A different banner every time you click on the page.

www.intechspecial.com is a statically loaded html website. It is also a template.
www.freeits.net is a fully functional web application. Although its user interaction is limited it still makes a "server round trip" every time you click on a link.

The html page does not. Once you load it into your browser, it stays in your browser, via a temp file.


CSS of course should be the only method used for a static-loaded html website.


I cannot say that I disagree or agree with your views of Silverlight. The 2008 Olympics Utilized silverlight to stream video. Adobe is still the current standard. Time will answer this question. The idea behind referencing Silverlight is that a "basic css html" website will soon be a thing of the past, and their will be practically no ned for someone who is only an HTML expert. CSS designers must understand more then just CSS to continue to be successful.

Now for the comment on Expression to Dreamweaver. This is like comparing Apples to Oranges.
Dreamweaver is not just an "html editor" but it allows for more functionality for developers who focus on more then just html. It has vast support within Java, PHP, and more specifically works quite nicely with other Adobe Products. For someone who does not need to just design a "static html" website it is the standard and not the exception.

Now bring in Expression Web, which is the "upgrade" from Front Page. It is the upgrade with one key exception. It can easily be used within a team develoment environment. You will have your development team with Microsoft's Team Visual Studio. You then have your design team working with Microsoft's Expression web, which can easily render ASP.net pages. At the same time, you have designers working with Expression Blend, and more then likely Adobe Photoshop for graphics. You will also have your Database team working with a SQL database so. Finally you have team working on IIS 7 and security. This is not exactly how it works, but only the simplified version.

For an individual who is a "hobbyist" expression web is the best solution, as its core focus is HTML/CSS front end code. Easier to use and learn interface, and cost alot less then the current dreamweaver. Dreamweaver works best if your focus for development will be with .php and MySQL.

If you take a look at www.freeits.net, it was developed using the following tools: Visual Studio 2008(Visual Basic), Expression Web(HTML,CSS), Expression Design(Custom Graphics), SQL Server, XML, other Data Sources(Visual Basic programming finds appropriate code and formats it with the appropriate html/css and sends it to the browser), IIS v7(security, and .net framework), and a few other sever side, and client side scripts, and/or code.

So from a basic understanding you are completely correct in your views and opinion.

From an understanding of where technology is going as well as the internet, you need to dig a little bit deeper into the "recipe" to completely understand.

Michael Stratton, MCSA, MCP, MCNPS, A+, Server+ Net+
Volunteer & Disabled Web Developer/Designer
President, Integrity Technology Specialists

Click to view felkinsworks's profile Professional felkinsworks 5 posts since
Nov 30, 2008
57. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Dec 1, 2008 12:07 AM
in response to: intechspecial
You should write some ebooks. and sell them on amazon.com . free to sign up ... 50% split. you can make your ebooks about your mental problems. might help others. Plus you can write, so take a break then do some more writing. I know some programers out thier making less than me! poor . I have a freind who started making his music on line he works for the State of CA anyway ... after 3 years he now only makes about around $89,000 thosand a year working part time making music.

I have another friend who cannot sell his music on line for free. and I think his music is better than the guy above?

I met a metally retarded guy, he came into a bar one day here in Sacramento CA, he was leaglly retarded. he had a house two brand new dodge trucks. loaded! He bought ever one in the bar a drink and had two women following him around!

So i asked if he would teach me his skills.! I said i would work for free. ! so I worked for him.
Now he cleans windows, so I went with him, we cleaned A nice rich house $900,000 !

But when it came time to pay, He asked for $350.00 for one 8 hour day! not bad... But the home owner said " NO" "We need to pay you right," the home owner gave him $100 more so he made $450.00 not bad for one days work.
I could not belive it!

I clean the windows better, The above guy did not even know how to clean the windows etc ... but because the home owners felt bad for the retarded guy they gave him more! and re-rehired him again next year!

That guy inspired me to get out there and work harder!

I have had a long hard trip too, my first was to learn Java programming, Just as i am able to program a little, peoples over seas could program faster, cheaaaaaaaaaper than me! some of those programers are only makeing $7.00per hour!
So to compete I need to program better. But found a compay here in Folsom CA, They fly in prohramers from INDIA and pay them about $15 per h to $35, but thiose programers works as a team, so thay can program alot really fast! amazing ! you have 10 people programing on one project, they can but up a whole web site faster than anyone I have ever seen!

So how can you compete?

Now I am trying to learn and make 3D moives I am using Blender a free software, my goal now it to make cool 3D stuff
and load it on a website to create new traffic, for the customer. the better the Idea, the more peole will see it, and more sales for the customer. I found out it's been a log hard work. I am still learning ..but getting better. The next to hit the web will be web TV
were you can have your own channel, boy thats cool, my goal is to make 3D movies and put them fro free on the internet and hope people will like them!

If you can make the best web movie you can attract people to your site then $$$ they buy from you or from your clients site.
I just read about a guy who worked for micrsoft then letf to work for google ...now makes good $$$ saling his tee shirts on line!
like from meta cafe or zazzle.com

I Hope i will have my site fixed up by next week check it out then.

Mark Felkins

PS its always good to tell people inadvanced about your limits.

If you want a good laugh see me at youtube seach under stray cat the vent fair oaks cal see my videos!

thanks and good luck!
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
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58. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Dec 1, 2008 1:32 AM
in response to: felkinsworks
Thanks for your reply, it is encouraging.

Yes people are quite aware of my limits, the funny thing is that the more I do this, the less limits I have. My limitations are my mind, and my mind is allowed full creativity in what I do, yet I am always keeping the highest level of professionalism, and integrity, along with error free results. I expect in a short period of time, you will see an even bigger expansion on what I am doing, and contrary to prior belief, a man who is insane, can accomplish business results.

As far as programming I understand your frustration completely. I have a good base understanding in ASP.net, visual basic, ,php, any code out their I can give you a base of how it works, and resolve minor to medium problems.

The problem is basically as you describe it. I am currently working a project for someone based in Austrailia, for a whopping $6/hour.

To make matters worse, the only way I have been able to break into the market is through doing nothing but free work.

The great thing about this is that I have a hugh core group of supporter, that expand the width of the globe, and maybe even a few galaxies as well.

This has turned into a potentially bigger project which will lead to other even bigger projects.

My limitations on this end are next to null, since I do all my work from the comfort of my own home. I am on the computer doing this stuff anyways, up to 12 or more hours a day at times. So I have currently the ability to succeed without limitations.

To make things easier on myself, I have the ability to outsource some of my very own work to others. So let's say I am doing work that is comparable to the USA standard of $125/hour. Why would I charge this much if I can outsource to up to 10 developers that work better and faster then me? I just have to review what they are doing, and make sure before hand that they actually have a clue, through there portfolio and past work.

The great thing about what you are doing as a java programmer you can do the very same thing. You just need some good sales and marketing tactics.

My way of doing business, has just caused it to potentially burst at the seams, and I might need more professionals working under me that I can trust and I am confident in their abilities.

So your rate and are of expertiese will allow you much success, you just have to know how to apply your abilities to make them work.

As far as selling t-shirts and such, why would I want to step into using a magic marker, when I have a scientific calculator at my fingertips?

Please feel free to contact me, but you must understand my organization is based on volunteerism, period.

Thanks for your post, and please sit back and enjoy the ride, as it is getting to be quite a enjoyable one at that.

Mike
(inTech "SPECIAL")

Click to view felkinsworks's profile Professional felkinsworks 5 posts since
Nov 30, 2008
59. Re: Trouble for Web Design Companies Dec 1, 2008 3:15 AM

Yahoo has a free site builder program too. its great!

Most of the big corps hire AD firms like Ogilvy & Mather. this company used to promise 10% 50% uptick in sales or it was freeeeeeeee! or sometimes they paid their client money!

I studyed this company for awhile, They sale Ideas, there Ads are out there! This company sales YOU.

Like with anything.... its Ideas that sales, like music, art, etc. The same with Web sites!

Look at the yellow pages you see companys who can buy a full AD...... some companys only a name & number!

The bigger AD wins most of the time.

The internet you can now down load video about your company, etc.

Blogs are too big now ...so whats next? It might be your Idea that makes it big!

I saw a site in New York, great 3D site ...showed his 3D room, If you clicked on the window the curtains would open and you could see a 3D godzilla with fire ! it was kind of fake but coooool! he go millions of hits !!

You cannot be a just a programer anymore! you have to be an artist, develper of Ideas, 3D, CGI, art work, video works etc.
the goal is to bring customers to a website ...just having some picks and video are not enough.
you can make anything with Blender with out programming! nice. Or you can have some one program Blender for you!

I have been using blender 3D software its free... you can make real looking pics, video, complie it, convert it to flash if you like and put it on a website!

I have a way to get traffic to your site, lots of work, If your a small company you can do it your self, If you have a growing company then you will not have the time to to the work! hire me!

But when we get people to your site, if the site looks like, sonys web site boring ! or others like it. But sony has all the money too, so that doest matter for them.

Check out snickers web site the candy bar maker, boy I like that site, Nobody is going to tell you how to make a great site!

They keep there gold close to them.

There are alot of scams out there, I found a company that will make fake traffic to your site ! so you look good on the net!
but your wallet is empty ! Or you can pay per click , I heard some companys paid out as much as $100. per click, not per customer...per click! yaaa some people over sea's just clicking away at your site and split the money! fake people! nice!

Dream If I have investment money a golden angel, who would fund my company, I have a new Idea, that would bring traffic to your site or to your door NOW! chew on that ! If you got some money! call me. will talk. You have to sign some paper work.

dont give up!

If you need help let me know 916 821-7378

Mark A. Felkins


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