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Thanks for the clarification.

I think not having a clear message, other than price, hurts web design companies. Outsourcing has its advantages and drawbacks, but the real problem is the perception that what web design companies do is nothing special is the real problem. Web design like any other design job is first and foremost an art form it requires a level of skill and creativity that doesn't come from a book or a course. The really great designers make it look simple but it isn't.

You bring up some very valid and interesting points.

Thank you.

In the last post I said tipos when I should of said typos.

I also wanted to define what I had said in more detail.

The forum where the mistake was made, I was commenting on how some people(including me) will rant and rave all the time over stupid things.

I did not want you to confuse this as being that I was saying a rat is brave over stupid things.

I hope this clarifies.

You are correct that it is black(font) and white(background).

I have also noticed that there is an occastional blue(hyperlink) and a few colorful avatars.

This thread is becoming more informative and entertaining by the minute.

Unfortunately it has been "hijacked" and is now off focus.

I am interested if anyone has views on the future market of web design companies.

Very cool.

I apologize I misunderstood, as I thought you were a well established corporate entity with years of business experience.

Please forgive my misunderstanding.

You are actually right, I take that back.

My mistake.

I work for an established company that has done approximately seven thousand sites, this is just my pet project. I've got years of experience here and working within small, regional businesses that lends me a unique perspective on the subject.

IWrite is spot on in his assessment of where web design is going; I'd love to elaborate more but I'm not going to show my cards just yet.

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