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5 Replies Last post: Oct 11, 2008 3:35 PM by NoBullFunding

Buying out my business partner

Oct 10, 2008 10:31 PM

Click to view krose4jc's profile Start-up krose4jc 1 posts since
Oct 10, 2008
I will be selling my 50% of my business to my business partner. We have a salon which generates about 60,000. a year profit. We have a beautiful place and lots of product. What would be good formula in finding the right selling price.
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1. Re: Buying out my business partner Oct 11, 2008 7:44 AM
Buying out my business partner, Welcome

Great question. However, need more information. Is this a FRIENDLY buy out??
How long you have been in business?? What is the Business Structure?? Sole Prop, Partnership?? Corp??
Any agreements made by the partners about selling the business?? Do you have an Accountant??, A Lawyer??
This is the time to talk to the professionals.

Good luck, LUCKIEST
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2. Re: Buying out my business partner Oct 11, 2008 8:09 AM
Wow Luckiest, that's the most round about way of saying "I don't know". LOL

Your best bet is to base it on comparable sales. In other words, you can get info on recent sales of other salons that have sold in your area. I have used bizbuysell.com since they will provide this info for free. You will be able to get a list of how much similar businesses sold for, and what multiple of cash flow (or EBITDA) they sold for. Once you find some good comps, you can take the average cash flow multiple and apply it to your business.

For example, if there were 5 salons in your area that recently sold for on average 1.5x cash flow, then you should determine the cash flow level that your business generates (simplest way is to take Net Profit + Interest + Taxes + Depreciation + Amortization). So if your cash flow was $50,000, then the value would be $75k ($50,000 x 1.5). Since its a 50% share, your partner should pay you $37,500 (50% of $75,000).

There are professional valuation firms that can do it, but it will cost a few thousand dollars to do it. Using comps is simple and fair and free :)
Click to view GrowthCurve's profile Mogul GrowthCurve 152 posts since
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3. Re: Buying out my business partner Oct 11, 2008 9:24 AM
First of all, it depends on what you mean by "profit."

Your 50% share of the profit is $30,000, but if that's the total of your income from the salon and you're working 40 hours to make it, then your business is not really earning a "profit" at all. It's simply generating a wage or salary that you could make working somewhere else without the risks of ownership.

It's only a profit it the number takes into account the value of your time in running and working at the business.

Assuming that your salon truly generates a $60,000 economic profit, though, your valuation is likely to be based on some multiple of this number.

For a really quick (and barely reliable) way to do this, you can go to a place like BizBuysell-dot-com and look up the other salons that are for sale. There will be a listing price, the company's revenue, and the company's cash flow. You can then try to see if you can determine an average multiplier like "1x cash flow" or "2x revenue" or something like that.

This is by no means 100% accurate as (1) people are usually not getting valuations done when they sell their businesses online, and they are overly optmistic about their business' value, (2) cash flow can be defined lots of different ways, so you don't know if this will be a true "apples to apples," and (3) sometimes business include real estate or other fixed assets that can jack up the price, making them look more valuable on a multiple of cash flow.

This business is probably not valuable enough to do a full-tilt valuation on, but I bet if you look around you can find a good multiplier of cash flow that you and and your partner can agree on.

Another approach would be to ask yourself -- and answer honestly -- if your partner were selling the 50% share to you instead of the other way around, what would you be willing to pay? If you are being honest and fair, you should expect to ask for no more from your partner for your own 50% share.
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4. Re: Buying out my business partner Oct 11, 2008 11:59 AM
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Buying out my business partner

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO FIND 5 salons in your area that recently sold for on average 1.5x cash flow

AND ARE THEY GOING TO TELL YOU THE 5 salons average 1.5x cash flow????
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5. Re: Buying out my business partner Oct 11, 2008 3:35 PM
in response to: LUCKIEST
This info about cash flow multiples is readily available. Bizbuysell is one of the largest business brokerage sites, and they track the data. You can run reports which show the sales price, and what the multiple was.