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HostAfric,

I assume you have your own website?

Interesting using [at] instead of @. I've never seen that before.

nice but I would also check out http://www.websitedesignpeople.com and see what they have to offer.

I think the word template needs to be redefined - a site builder like you are referring to uses templates, but not the way a company like mine does. You are right. It is just filling in blanks when using that type of script. However when we use the word template we are referring to something that was designed by a professional graphic designer and used as a base to get the site off to a good start. After we are done customizing the site it only holds a bare resemblance to any other site using the same template. Add to that the fact that a good template company will only sell a template x number of times to keep it from being over used and the odds are very slim that the scenerio you wanted us to "Image" would ever happen more than once in a blue moon.

The use of templates keeps costs down and quality high if it is done right.

PS. If you are going to go around slamming others in forums you might make sure you are able to write and spell correctly ... especially seeing as how there is a spell checker in the write post form.

"And considering you were so much concerned about spelling, we might look into the whole syntax as well.... Learn to put comas in your sentences.. am running out of breath trying to read!"
Touche and back at you "spelling is the list of my concerns now." <- obviously

seriously though - i wasnt actually thinking that you were attacking my company... you were attacking templates in general and like i said, i wanted to redefine the word. I am also not defending the "canned application" - quite the contrary. I agree whole heartedly that if someone is palming that off as a real web solution then they are being dishonest.

However the concept of "Dupping" clients is what got my ire up. Its rude and counter-productive. I could come in and say that guys like you who charge per page for web design but dont do search engine optimization as part of the package are dupping clients and giving everyone in the web marketing industry a bad name... but i dont. I understand that some web designers dont have the sales chops to get clients the income their websites should get or to be able to optimize a site to get into the top ten of search terms. We each have our own strengths and weeknesses.

a couple of other things you All Knowingly stated without so much as looking at my companies site... "I wouldn't mind if the client is adviced in advance that what they will get is a customized template, but you know as well as i do that this is never the case." that is absolutely the case - my clients not only know what they are getting, they LOVE it.

The reasons are that they get the work for a very affordable price and they know what they are going to get before they get it. Image (sorry couldnt resist) paying the fees you charge and then getting something completely different than what was in your head durring the consultation. How many times have you had to go back and redesign a whole bunch of stuff for a client because you couldnt see into their brain? How much time did that waste of yours and your clients? (see i dont tell you that you wasted time or that you know it happens because quite frankly... i dont know any of those things for sure.)

and just fyi - the x number referred to 10 - not 100. Try surfing through the template options on my site - you might get some design ideas for your clients.

Have a good one - Enjoy working too hard

awww... group hug!!!

You are totally right... we are definately more of a modification/customization company both in graphics and scripting as well. Doing things from scratch drives me nuts personally - i prefer to stand on the shoulders of giants. They make me look really tall LOL

one last point of contention - my no longer active clients are ones that went out of business... not that quit my service. There has only been one company that quit our service, and they are actually in the process of coming back to us (i just couldnt leave it at "high rate" of no longer active clients )

on a totally separate note - this was one of the nicest flame threads i have ever been a part of - its always nice to work with a professional

Please contact me clifton musgrove at daily_win@hotmail.com i am very interest.