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12 Replies Last post: Oct 21, 2007 9:03 AM by DomainDiva

Yet another business loan request

Aug 2, 2008 11:29 PM

Click to view whalteva's profile Mogul whalteva 39 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
Is this an option? Would a bank consider if I had a commercial property, 2 single family
rental properties, raw land including waterfront, established business well over 2 years,
at least $300 k gross, shows a profit, good 1120's and 1040's.

With all this in mind would a bank consider rolling in all these properties and based on good
credit, etc. offer us a $500,000.00 bank loan or line of credit? Thanks.
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Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,938 posts since
Aug 6, 2007
1. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 3, 2008 7:31 AM
in response to: whalteva
Yet another business loan request

With 27 posts, do you want to share some info, like Who you are?? Where you are??

Do you have an Accountant??, Lawyer?? Have you developed a Business Plan??
A Bus Plan is one of the first items a bank or lender wants to see.

LUCKIEST
Click to view whalteva's profile Mogul whalteva 39 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
2. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 3, 2008 8:56 AM
in response to: LUCKIEST
Luckiest,
I've been in business for over 20 years so yes I certainly have a
CPA and an attorney. While a business plan might be important to
where I'm going I would think the longevity of my business would carry
more weight, along with financials and the other items I mentioned.
I would be more than happy to share any of my pertinent info if I
could find some answers to my questions. Thanks
Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,938 posts since
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3. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 3, 2008 9:05 AM
in response to: whalteva
Yet another business loan request

*Thanks for sharing some additional info. TRY MEMBERS PAGE*<br /<br />*In your first request you said nothing about *been in business for over 20 years so yes I certainly have a
*CPA and an attorney*<br /<br />Still have no idea who you are?? or where you are??
Click to view whalteva's profile Mogul whalteva 39 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
4. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 3, 2008 9:39 AM
in response to: LUCKIEST
Luckiest, I have updated my profile.
Any ideas to my initial question?

Anybody??
Thanks
Click to view whalteva's profile Mogul whalteva 39 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
5. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 3, 2008 10:54 PM
in response to: whalteva
Luckiest? Anyone???
Click to view SBGuru's profile Professional SBGuru 4 posts since
Aug 3, 2008
6. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 3, 2008 11:33 PM
in response to: whalteva

It will depend on Business Debt to Income, Personal Debt to income, business credit, personal credit, Equity Position (total risk exposure). In todays market banks are looking for low risk investments. If your loan request is completely outside the box, then odds are you will not get approved. On the other hand if net total profit, disposable income, and liquid assets are healthy then you would be on your way to getting approved. Be open to banker suggestions, in todays market the bank representatives are seeing alot of turndowns so they know by experience what the underwriters are looking for. Lastly, if you are under time constraints quickly inform the banker, the average open to close on large loan amounts are about 35 - 60 day approval periods.

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EAST COAST BANKER
Click to view whalteva's profile Mogul whalteva 39 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
7. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 4, 2008 5:59 PM
in response to: SBGuru

Thanks east coast banker.

The income is higher than the business debt as 1120 will attest to. Personal

income is higher than personal debt,as 1040 and credit report will attest to. Personal

credit score very high,low debt. Business credit, have various tradelines reporting,but

have not paid as much attention to that. I've always found more attention is paid to

personal credit. I have the assets in terms of the real estate I previously mentioned,

land, commercial building,and 2 residential properties currently rented as well as the

commercial office building. As for disposable income and liquid assets, I guess if
I had a large amount of disposable income or liquid assets I would not be looking for
sizeable funding for my business. I have money tied up in an IRA and other investment
vehicles, but not entirely liquid. I believe we are well inside the box. We offer more

positive attributes to a banker than negative. Any possibilities? Thanks

Click to view SBGuru's profile Professional SBGuru 4 posts since
Aug 3, 2008
8. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 4, 2008 9:59 PM
in response to: whalteva

Well... So we meet again!@

Nice to hear from you. Ok, down to business. 1120 & 1140 is in line, Personal DTI should be around 38% in today's market. Business DTI (inclusive of D&B reported expenses & expenses related to the debt you mentioned initially) should be around 40 - 42% (exception to higher DTI approval are seen in today's market dependent on compensating factors, i.e. spousal income, IRA, liquid assets, etc.)


When I mentioned disposable income I was not talking about a "sizable amount". Yet, I am talking about an amount equal to the national average reserves (6-8 months) or simply stated an amount one should have given total debt expenditures. This is at underwriter's descretion!!!!!

As you mentioned personal credit score is high vs low debt.

My question to you is what else do you need to know? Get your last two years taxes (personal and business) & Submit application!!!!

Click to view whalteva's profile Mogul whalteva 39 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
9. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 4, 2008 10:46 PM
in response to: SBGuru
Hi again as well, what else I need to know is who to submit application to???
Do I go the local bank route? Do you handle things of this nature? Where are
all the funding brokers that continuously post on here?? With what I bring to
the table not enough......................... So what else I need to know is where to
turn??? Thanks
Click to view SBGuru's profile Professional SBGuru 4 posts since
Aug 3, 2008
10. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 5, 2008 11:45 PM
in response to: whalteva
What state are you in? What state are the properties in?
Click to view whalteva's profile Mogul whalteva 39 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
11. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 5, 2008 11:55 PM
in response to: SBGuru
Click to view whalteva's profile Mogul whalteva 39 posts since
Jul 18, 2008
12. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 6, 2008 11:45 PM
in response to: SBGuru
Hi...any other thoughts??? Thanks
Click to view Milleisen's profile Mogul Milleisen 129 posts since
Aug 6, 2008
13. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 7, 2008 12:13 AM
in response to: whalteva

If you are seeking a professional to walk you through the process, I'd be happy to talk to you about it. All my contact info is on my profile.

To address your question about whether a community bank is the best route, it really will depend on the details of your request and what ancillary business would come with it. If the LTV and cash flow coverage leave the loan "on the fence", having balances to deposit or using their merchant services could make the difference. The big benefit of a community bank is that the decisions tend to be more local, so they will definately look harder at your request if they see the benefit of the whole relationship. That said, community banks typically will cost you a little more because they deal in less volume than the big boys. When I was a community banker, we had the benefit of being a little creative in order to get deals done. We thrived on financing the deals that were out of the big banks cookie cutter parameters. If you are flexible, going the community bank route could work.
Click to view SBGuru's profile Professional SBGuru 4 posts since
Aug 3, 2008
14. Re: Yet another business loan request Aug 7, 2008 10:53 AM
in response to: whalteva
I am in GA. But can work with properties nationwide. If you would like to talk further regarding your request shoot me an email @ obeaty11@yahoo.com. Well, I have to get to the airport. As we say in the business banking world, " P & P" Package and Present...
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