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13 Replies Last post: Jun 25, 2009 6:51 PM by biz2009

Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees?

Jul 22, 2008 1:36 PM

Click to view andyl1987's profile Authority andyl1987 13 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
We have been to bank of america to get a loan to startup a subway franchise. We were denied and we were recommend to apply for a sba loan.

I have a couple of questions.

Do franchisees offer financing themselves? If so, what percentage?

Through the sba loan, how much do we have to put up for collateral, maybe a car or cash?
Are there other methods to finance our franchise startup?
Anyone have more experience with a franchise startup?
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Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,938 posts since
Aug 6, 2007
1. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 22, 2008 3:06 PM
in response to: andyl1987
Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees??

Talk to the SBA, Talk to SCORE, Both are FREE.

Ask the Franchisee about Financing. How soon do you plan on starting??

Keep up posted with your results. You will also get some great suggestions.

Good luck, LUCKIEST
Click to view andyl1987's profile Authority andyl1987 13 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
2. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 22, 2008 3:10 PM
in response to: LUCKIEST
I was planning on starting this month or next, we already started the application.
we need to take a test and so on.
Click to view LUCKIEST's profile SCORE LUCKIEST 7,938 posts since
Aug 6, 2007
3. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 22, 2008 5:15 PM
in response to: andyl1987
Experience with financing opening up franchisees??

Keep us posted after the test.

Where are you??
Click to view andyl1987's profile Authority andyl1987 13 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
4. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 22, 2008 5:54 PM
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Click to view FCPainter's profile Mogul FCPainter 83 posts since
Jan 8, 2008
5. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM
in response to: andyl1987
If I were you I would drive around and ask some other subway franchise owners how they financed their business and what they would recommend you do. I'd also be surprised if subway did not have a decent option that they can facilitate you applying for.
Click to view PiperE's profile Mogul PiperE 31 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
6. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 22, 2008 9:04 PM
in response to: andyl1987
Andy,

Do you know why B of A turned you down? What type of loan did you apply for? They should offer SBA loans, so I am not sure what happened there. Maybe you were working with someone who was inexperienced.

Anyway, back to the questions. How far along are you with Subway? Have you signed a franchise agreement and paid your fee? I am not intimately familiar with Subway, but if you are a first time owner, I would suggest speaking to other Subway owners before taking the financial plunge. I have heard some things...

No, franchisors do not offer financing. Long story short, franchisors are highly regulated. Although you would think they should provide financing if they are so certain they're concept is so great, financing franchisees would open up all kinds of liability issues.

An SBA guaranteed loan is the most common option for financing a franchise. I also work with a lender who offers financing to tier 1 (the large) franchises and some very successful smaller franchise concepts. For those who qualify is it a great way to go because the lender does not collateralize the borrower's home. Also the application process is quick and easy.

There is another option that I offer. It is a version of the unsecured business line of credit. We set up a new corporation for you and do all the work to secure the most business credit possible, up to $150K. Even people with low credit can get this credit.

Paula
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Click to view hyland's profile Professional hyland 3 posts since
Jul 17, 2008
7. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 23, 2008 10:30 AM
in response to: andyl1987
I was a subway franchisee for about 10years and director of oporations for a subway development officer for about eight years before that. At least in my area, many franchisees will carry contracts. Most of them would like 25% to 50% down, they will ask for collateral, possibly a higher interest rate than what you will pay at the bank, but you can be more creative and many of them will be more flexable with terms. As an example, you may be able to structure the loan so that it is amortized over 15 years with a balloon pmt. at ten. This will give you lower monthly payments to keep cash flow up while you're getting started and by the time you have been in business for 10 years, it is easy to go to a bank and finance the payoff.

I hope this is helpful.
Click to view andyl1987's profile Authority andyl1987 13 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
8. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 23, 2008 11:25 AM
in response to: hyland
Thanks guys for all the details.

Bank of Amerrica turn us down because the financial specialist was not very experience, she said there was no sba loans available, but their website clearly state it does. So we spoke to a manager and she told us she would filed it, however, we should finish the process with subway and get approve.

Then there'll be a greater chance of us getting the loan. I will be speaking with subway owners just to get their opinions on what is good or what could be bad.

Usually, through sba loans, do they ask for deposit or collateral?
Click to view PiperE's profile Mogul PiperE 31 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
9. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 23, 2008 11:38 AM
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"through sba loans, do they ask for deposit or collateral?"'

Oh yes. Absolutely. As Hyland stated, you'll need to provide about 25% of the total investment. Lenders want the borrower to have have stake in the business, skin in the game, if you will.As far as collateral, SBA claims not to require it, but it is much harder to qualify. I expect you would need to provide a great portion of the investment.
Click to view andyl1987's profile Authority andyl1987 13 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
10. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 23, 2008 11:46 AM
in response to: PiperE
I thought hyland was talking about franchisee financing where their rates are higher.
I was reading through some threads and sba loans, people were depositting like 10% .

I might put my car for collateral and deposit 10%, hopefully thats enough.
Click to view PiperE's profile Mogul PiperE 31 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
11. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 23, 2008 11:58 AM
in response to: andyl1987
Andy,

Autos do not work as collateral. Generally only real estate, and liquid investment accounts, and cash, of course.

I am guessing you have not had any conversations with Subway as they would qualify you as a potential franchisee.They will want to know how much cash you have and what your net worth is.
Click to view andyl1987's profile Authority andyl1987 13 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
12. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 23, 2008 12:09 PM
in response to: PiperE
Lets say I have the real state as collateral and my net worth qualifies me for the franchise.
What happens to that collateral? What if I failed, whats going to happen to it?

Sorry, I just want to get a lot of information before I devour myself into something that's going to invest a lot of my time and assets.
Click to view andyl1987's profile Authority andyl1987 13 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
13. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 23, 2008 1:27 PM
in response to: andyl1987
hey Piper,

I gave you a call to get some information.
Click to view PiperE's profile Mogul PiperE 31 posts since
Jul 22, 2008
14. Re: Anyone experience with financing opening up franchisees? Jul 23, 2008 2:08 PM
in response to: andyl1987
Okay. Calling you now.
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