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We really need a loan now, my how things can change!

May 10, 2008 12:58 AM

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May 9, 2008
My wife currently owns a salon. Its a smaller but very nice salon. The problem is the limitation it has. She is doing as much with it as possible. The other bad thing is her back is starting to tell her that she isn't going to be able to do this for years to come. We have got to find a way to make more money to get her out from behind the chair. She is a color expert and loves to do what she does so we want to stay in the line of business but need to grow.

In January she was approached by a owner of one of the largest salons in town. He is 67 years old and ready to go do the retirement thing. The salon he has is in a building that is 2 levels. 3000 up and 3000 on the main level for a total of 6000 sq. ft.. We would be purchasing the building and the existing salon business which includes 6 tanning beds. tanning is not a option at our current location due to space. the business, appraised by a professional business appraiser referred to us by the WY. SBDC, came in at a range of $115,000 - $$150,000. the building appraised for $250,000 in its current state.

We came to an agreement with him last month. The agreement was a total price of $378,000. We were paying him 40k down and then $2650.00 a month for eight years with a balloon payment for the balance. he wanted to to do the owner financing to give him a steady income for some of his retirement. We shook on it and gave him a $1000.00 ernest money check as a gesture of good faith. We were all for it obviously as then we wouldn't have to mess with banks. this also would help us make it easier to move into stage 2 of the plan.

As some of you probably seen in my other thread, we want to put a gym in on the second floor. As this space is only partially finished, it didn't count much in the appraisal of the building. Just finishing the space alone will greatly add to its value. to find out the lowdown on the gym see my other thread. In short it stands to makes us allot of money!

THEN JUST THIS MORNING!!!! He calls us up and asks me to come meet with him to talk over the contract. See, he was to be getting a legal contract drawn up based on our agreement. he went and talked to his lawyer, his accountant, and his banker. Low and behold they all give him there .02 worth and convince him he is to old for this kind of deal. He needs more money down, which we don t have, or shorter terms, but now all of a sudden he wants to really actually have us get our own financing. That i don t think would be too much of an issue but banks might want more down than the 40K we have barely been able to come up with. That scares us some. The biggest issue is it really puts a damper on the gym plan.

In a nut shell, this is what we would need. We would need $578,000 to buy the salon, building, and to start the gym. We have $40,000 now and without giving up basically everything we own, cant come up with any significant sums of money in a timely manner.

Again, with everything all said and done and figuring on the numbers we have, we are looking at a 60% profit margin in this business. I can provide allot more detailed information to someone who might be interested in helping us, but I am not going to to put it on here for everyone to see.

If anyone has any ideas on ways to work this out, we would be most thankful to hear them. We had a dream that was so so close and now feels like the rug got taken right out from under our feet.
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Click to view Sako7STW's profile Authority Sako7STW 13 posts since
May 9, 2008
1. Re: We really need a loan now, my how things can change! May 10, 2008 1:21 AM
Thought I should add, if you wish to contact us privately, email us at evwyogym@yahoo.com
Click to view FCPainter's profile Mogul FCPainter 68 posts since
Jan 8, 2008
2. Re: We really need a loan now, my how things can change! May 14, 2008 6:09 PM
my gut says you have more leverage than he realizes. you are in a small town and your wife has another salon. How many other buyers have your profile and live where you live. I would make a counter-offer that bumps things up a bit but keeps you out of financing. Maybe you can promise him accelerated payments as a percentage of increased profits. Might be nice to have him trying to help you even after the sale. Also, maybe also put a clause in that if you get the gym runnign successfully, you'll also accelerate payments.

You are enthusiastic, which is great. However, when I get enthusiastic, I sometimes forget that the person on the other side of the deal needs me really badly too and is likely all fired up to do the deal too.
Click to view FCPainter's profile Mogul FCPainter 68 posts since
Jan 8, 2008
3. Re: We really need a loan now, my how things can change! May 14, 2008 6:12 PM
one other crazy thought, i noticed there are a lot of members of this community who have salons and who have fitness in their profile. maybe you should title your questions with salon or gym in the title so that you can get them to weigh in....i always think that getting advice from peers in your current or future industry makes sense and an online community lets you connect with people in other towns who are not competition
Click to view dtominus's profile Mogul dtominus 117 posts since
Jun 3, 2008
4. Re: We really need a loan now, my how things can change! Jun 3, 2008 11:31 PM
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call me at 727-545-9530 or email me at dtominus@yahoo.com
Click to view Bridge's profile Mogul Bridge 310 posts since
Jun 3, 2008
5. Re: We really need a loan now, my how things can change! Jun 4, 2008 9:04 AM
Depending on the laws of your state, you may already have a verbal, enforcable contract. You had an agreement and you have "performed" with a deposit - check with an attorney.

You might also want to get a local business broker involved. There appears to be a willing seller and a willing buyer, you have cash to put down, and real estate is involved. This should not be a hard deal to complete for an expert.

You could always start by telling the seller to ask his attorney and accountanct write him the check to but his business if they think it is such a good deal....

I have found that the veiw from the cheap seats is just that and that they are never the ones to write checks.

Click to view heretohelp's profile Mogul heretohelp 14 posts since
Jun 5, 2008
6. Re: We really need a loan now, my how things can change! Jun 5, 2008 1:11 PM
Hi,

Please contact me at 781-341-0700. I can definitely discuss with you how you can meet your capital needs.

-Tiffany