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No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down

May 26, 2008 10:50 AM

Click to view Adducent's profile Mogul Adducent 204 posts since
May 22, 2008

No Money? No Problem ... Buy A Business With Zero Down ($0 from your pocket)


I could tell you that there are many "little secrets" that sophisticated business buyers and investors keep to themselves to buy good businesses without using their own money and that now for the "first time" I'm going to disclose them to you ("at the risk of making them mad; but the world has to know" ... right ... what BS ... it always makes me smile when I read it.).


But it's not like that at all.


Most sophisticated and experienced business buyers and investors (and I've talked, worked and dealt with hundreds) are good people; professionals that have learned through experience and don't mind talking about it and sharing their knowledge.


The thing is, most people don't know someone like that, and if they don't know them ... how can they ask them about buying businesses and the best way to do it if you have a limited amount of capital?


There are a lot of good books out there on buying a business. They are a great resource for those people who have a lot of cash on hand to buy a business.


They are also great reference materials for those out there that want to buy a business but may not have the money to do it. But frankly it is not going to be much help to them since they do not have the money to buy a business the way that most people think is the only way to buy a business. But there are other ways and you can buy a good business without using your own money for the down-payment. This has been proven for decades time and time again!


In my previous posts I talked about why and how this works (please read them if you have not had a chance to yet):


5/22 - How to buy a good business without using your own money - Part 1 - Why This Works


5/22 - How to buy a good business without using your own money - Part 2 - How This Works


Most people think that they have to have a lot of their own money to buy a business.

That is just not true.

It does take money to buy a business but again we're talking about learning how to use other people's money ... not your own!

Perhaps you have another question like "I've heard that it is very hard to find money to start a business ... why would someone provide money for me to buy a business?"


Here's why:

  1. It is cheaper smarter safer and much faster to buy a good business rather than to start one.
  2. Established businesses have proven revenues and cash flow.
  3. They have existing customers and supplier relationships.
  4. The financial communities know that it is much safer for them to put money into an established business as compared to a start-up business.

The financial community that we mention above is familiar and comfortable in working with business people in leveraged transactions for solid established businesses.


They understand their business and what's more they are comfortable and understand the businesses of their clients. They know that asset-based transactions are a good investment for them and that historically they have worked well for many buyers who use their services (and capital) to buy businesses.

Keep in mind, as an example, if you buy a successful business for $1 million using other people's money; you own a significant asset that produces a regular income. It doesn't matter if you bought the business without using any of your own money. When the financing is paid off you will own a $1 million business asset free and clear.


Paid for by other people's money that is paid back from the cash flow of the business!

The business market favors the knowledgeable buyer!


From time to time I will continue to post additional details to this forum; but if anyone is interested to directly discuss the above, and how this method and information may help you, just click on my profile for information about me and my contact information.

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May 26, 2008
1. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down May 27, 2008 10:10 PM
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2. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down Jun 23, 2008 1:12 AM
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3. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down Aug 2, 2008 12:05 AM
in response to: ANGELPR
Hello. New here, desperately looking for some advice. I have interest in buying the current company I work for. It is a small music/advertising company in Chicago. I have been working there for about 1 year. I started as an intern for graduate school and ended up getting hired after only one month. Long story short, I’ve done a great job working my way into the fabric of the company, but my timing was off. My boss is trying to sell the company. He is having a mid-life crisis and wants to do other things. I know the business is still extremely promising. It has brand name, established clients, and an amazing location. It is heartbreaking for me to watch the company drift away. So much so that I have recently pondered buying the business. I know what it takes to run the business and to help it grow. Unfortunately I just finished graduate school a couple months ago and I have no money. I need advice. Do I talk to a bank? Some of the clients with a lot of money? Can this be done? Any help would be greatly appreciated. This feels like a once in a life time opportunity.
Click to view Adducent's profile Mogul Adducent 204 posts since
May 22, 2008
4. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down Aug 2, 2008 7:53 AM
in response to: greg53

Hi,

Welcome to the community.


Being on the inside of the business can give you an edge but there are a lot of important things to cover when buying a business (and how to determine if its possible to buy it without using your own money). So it is not practical to put them all here in reply to your question. But I will list here the high points that you should look at first:

  1. Is the owner selling because he "wants" to do something else with is life or he "needs" to because he sees the business not doing as well in the future as it has in the past. The real reason for selling is very important to determine early on as best you can.
  2. What is the revenue and net income of the business for the past 3 to 5 years? Check their financials for the last 3 years and see how sales and profits are trending. Are they going up, flat or declining?
  3. What do they forecast for the next 3 to 5 years?
  4. How strong is the balance sheet ... i.e. are their assets with value and is the business carrying debt?
  5. Do they have appraisals to prove the value they are putting on the assets? Can any debt on the books be assumed?
  6. Will the owner carry back any financing?
  7. Have they established an asking price? Do you know what they are basing their asking price on? Is that a fair and acceptable price?
  8. Can the financials be realistically re-cast to roll more to the bottom line; to more clearly show investors or funding sources the businesses ability to pay them back?

There are many more questions but the above will be critical when it comes to putting together a plan to line up deal structure to create cash and arrange a financing package to buy the business.


Putting other due diligence questions aside for now, it is possible for funding to be created for many types of acquisitions, using the assets from the deal itself and by crafting suitable deal structure with the business owner.


Most small business sellers want cash; but in reality, in order to sell they must be willing to take back financing. Rarely do small businesses sell for all cash ... and frankly a buyer would be making a mistake if they did pay all cash.

There are better uses for their cash. The compelling reason to have the seller have some sort of "skin" remaining in the deal is "what does it tell you about their faith in the business if they won't carry back financing?"

Conventional bank funding can be difficult to get unless you have a business record for them to rely on, great credit, provide personal guarantees and collateral. So you have to look at the acquisition from all angles to make maximize use of whats there to work with not only with your own resources but what the business can bring to the table itself. By doing that kind of work, evalution & analysis of the deal and by being prepared you greatly increase the odds of arranging funding to buy the business.


That are many ways to create cash to buy a business or stretch any cash you have on hand so that you can buy more of a business. But it starts with finding out what you have to work with and then using it in the right way. You might want to consult a professional with experience to help you with that or do some studying to get more knowledge about how to buy businesses under your belt.

Sometimes it is better to pass on a deal if it is the wrong one. I discuss that in detail in one of my books on buying businesses but simply put: "do not buy a business just because you can" ... make sure it is the right business for you to buy before you do the deal. So it is very important to make sure that you have established that price and terms of the deal are fair and that it is the right business for you and that it meets and passes all of your due diligence.


I hope the above helps you or gives you some direction.

Let me know how things progress; feel free to contact me directly if you'd like to discuss your deal (my contact info is in my profile) or if you have other specific questions and I'll help you with what feedback I can give you.

Dennis Lowery
Adducent, Inc.

Click to view Adducent's profile Mogul Adducent 204 posts since
May 22, 2008
5. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down Aug 2, 2008 11:02 AM
Something I want to add to this post:

The point that I want to make is that the cash for the down-payment does not have to be yours.

  1. Asset based and collateralized lending has been around for hundreds and thousands of years.
  2. Using the assets and cash flow of a business to help you buy it is something that's commonly accepted in the financial community.
  3. There is a whole industry of lenders and investors who focus just on that very thing.
  4. There are literally hundreds and thousands of investors and lenders that put money into businesses based on the assets of the business and its cash flow and ability to pay the money back.All of the above, are the reasons that leveraged transactions have worked in the past, they work today and will work in the future.
  5. Deals can be structured to safely, with adequate margin, buy and operate the business.
  6. This methodology and approach does not require you to create (or take on) a risky situation where you over-pay or over-leverage the business

It can be done. It just takes study and application of knowledge specific to accomplishing the objective of buying a good business without using a lot or or any of your own money.
Click to view greg53's profile Professional greg53 3 posts since
Aug 1, 2008
6. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down Aug 2, 2008 12:08 PM
in response to: Adducent
Wow, thanks for all the advice and wisdom Dennis.  I know I have a lot to think about.  I think the main concern is future profits.  The business hasn't been nearly as profitable as it was in the past.  I think the problem is the owner, I mean how can you continue to bring in business when you are looking for a new career?  Also the company is in the music industry.  This industry has endured major changes over the course of the past 8-10 years.  The owner is stuck in the "old school" ways of dealing with the industry.  I think the technological changes that have impacted the business are inspiring him to quit rather than to adjust.  I however have been studying this industry day and night for the past 4 years.  I truly feel that I know how to shift the business to profit off of the modern music industry.  I feel like I have the people and the idea, now I need to figure out the financial details.  Again, thank you so much for your time.  I am very thankful I found this forum and will continue to bother you and others with questions ;)
Click to view Adducent's profile Mogul Adducent 204 posts since
May 22, 2008
7. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down Aug 2, 2008 12:19 PM
in response to: greg53

You're welcome. The stability of future revenue and ability to generate acceptable profits is key ... especially when buying your first business. You don't want to discover after you buy the business that you have to become a "turnaround artist" your first time out as a business owner.


Based on what you've said about the situation, by approaching the owner in the right way - you might have some leeway to structure something that would be mututally beneficial. Just be sure to dig deep into whether you can get the business back to stable (and growing) profits. As a thought, with your perspective and vision on how to move the business forward perhaps he needs someone to "partner" with him to relieve him from that responsibility (which could be a relief to him) so he can ultimately transtion out of the business. I have seen this happen before as a form of "mini management buy-out" ... where an insider takes over the business from the owner in a structured transition or exit-strategy for the owner.

Food for thought for you anyway. If you have a conversation with the owner about your interests on this and want to bounce it off someone for ideas on how to pursue ... feel free to contact me.

Dennis Lowery
Adducent, Inc.

Click to view skelton116's profile Start-up skelton116 1 posts since
Dec 29, 2008
8. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down Dec 29, 2008 2:58 PM
I have found several businesses that I am interested in, but all are out of reach as far as how much upfront money is needed. I would really like some help on buying a 'web-based' business and some information on who would be interested in financing a purchase like that. If you were interested personally that would be an ideal situation. This businesses turn profits in the 250k - 1M range and any money borroed could be paid back within 3 years and the profit to the lender thereafter. Please let me know if you think you can help me with this. I have always wanted to own my own business, but I will never have the cash to and established business. I am certain that I can run any of the selected businesses effectively and grow them to their highest potential. I am tired of the 9 - 5 drag and I want to work for ME now. Please contact me directly if you are interested or think that you can help me in any way, it would be appreciated greatly. ~ Jody Skelton, jody116@hotmail.com
Click to view Adducent's profile Mogul Adducent 204 posts since
May 22, 2008
9. Re: No Money? No Problem … Buy A Business With $0 Down Jan 5, 2009 10:53 AM
in response to: skelton116
Hi Jody,

I just emailed a reply directly to you.

Dennis Lowery
Adducent, Inc.