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Search Engine Optimization

Oct 10, 2007 12:02 PM

Click to view Kelleysstyle's profile Start-up Kelleysstyle 1 posts since
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Can anyone recommend an ethical, effective SEO company?


Thank you,
Kelleysstyle

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1. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 10, 2007 12:18 PM
SEOMoz.org has a great list of people who provide these services. They are well known, and can give you some great advice. I do in-house SEO for my own company(Our business sells tires, not SEO), but reading SEOMoz on a daily basis has really sharpened my skills.

Their list is available at http://www.seomoz.org/article/recommended and they do not take any kickbacks for their recommendations.
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2. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 10, 2007 12:25 PM
do you recomend setting up different "search engine gateway" pages for each different search engine??
I had a book that said that you should make a different page for yahoo, good, hotbot, etc. Do you do that?
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3. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 10, 2007 12:31 PM
Check out the web site as noted. Then, if you live/work in a major city review the SEO Companies available.

More importantly, make sure that you maintain a solid working relationship between your web designer and the SEO Company because maximizing SEO means that you probably will have to make changes in the web site.

Last, but not least, the algorithms change all the time so SEO is not a single task, It is ongoing. That will impact your budget and the time you have to spend monitoring and supervising these activities if you do not do them yourself.
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4. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 10, 2007 12:36 PM
in response to: SilverDragon
How old is that book? If you build the page correctly, it should display the same information for each search engine.

While Yahoo and MSN use Meta Tags, Google does not rely on them as much. If you have built a CSS site, things should be easily indexable.

I would worry more about cross-browser compatibility, ( making sure the page shows up the same on IE, FireFox and Safari) rather than different content for different search engines. Most of these search engines have been bought out by the Big 3, Google, Yahoo, and MSN. So they will be using the same results and algorithms that the big 3 will, no matter where you go.
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5. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 10, 2007 12:56 PM
I've used http://www.bluewhalews.com for my lead generation company freepoolquotes.com. When I check my traffic stats you can clearly see the rise in organic traffic. Highly recommend them, affordable if you are a small to mid size business.
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Click to view emmagination's profile Professional emmagination 8 posts since
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6. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 10, 2007 7:39 PM
SEO is definitely an ongoing process. The small change you make today will not show up in the search engines for days to weeks. It's also heavily based on your target market, so before you start looking for an SEO company, you should be very aware of your target audience such as "photographers searching for a photography portfolio website". At that point an SEO can optimize the website to target that audience. Using a keyword such as "portfolio" is too broad and returns results such as "stock portfolios".
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7. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 11, 2007 3:27 PM
in response to: emmagination
There are ways to get a website or blog ranked almost within minutes.

It takes a little work to get to that point but I have done this with much success on many an occasion ESPECIALLY if the client is proactive

I'm a great believer in LSI and Website Structure - when that is all correct the search engines will rank any business much faster.

I do SEO (and related) for living and everyday something changes - the breadcrumbs count ;)

Cheers

David
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8. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 11, 2007 5:02 PM
in response to: dare2succeed
I'm sorry dare but none of these programs actually work.

I don't want to get into any lengthy online chat here - just know these progs are a waste of time.

Good search starts from the ground up

Whoever said seomoz.com is cool Rand Fishkin is a great SEO and a nice guy (it all helps)

One could always think of Aaron Wall of seobook.com

None of these great pople would recommend your recommendations - go ask them at their blogs.

Once again it all starts at the "architecture" stage nothing good is free.

My professional opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Any doubters??? Go to webmasterworld.com and you will be told in no uncertain termes what the truth is.

David
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9. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 11, 2007 5:12 PM
in response to: david28078
I wholeheartedly agree. Anything thing worth doing, is worth reading up on. I would even go so far as to post the question for you in the knowledge base at SEOMoz. Never use these things. They link to what Google is increasingly calling "bad neighborhoods" They can easily hurt you in the long run.

Log in, ask any of the the Members of SEOMoz, and they will tell you the exact same thing. The only thing these programs are good at, is taking away money from a tight advertising budget. Remember, it is not the number of links that count, it is the quality of those links.
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10. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 11, 2007 5:23 PM
in response to: buybigtires
Thank you bigtires I thought I was sticking my neck out there.

Please know I do "SEO" for a living and know what works and doesn't - it's all a big jigsaw - start with one piece correctly and you'll be good at it :)

David
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11. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 11, 2007 10:05 PM
in response to: buybigtires

Buybigtires is right stay away from all SEO softwares, links software checking, and backlinks software, most of the time all of these will harm the search engines. I have a bad experience with them the first year I started my business online. Nothing is more valuable to do it manually.

Some people created softwares to submit to the directories, when you know the data fields are different on each submission form directories, your site will be rejected often for missing information or else.

This is time consuming, but once you see the results of your work, you will be happy.
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12. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 11, 2007 10:27 PM
http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools is a free tool from Google. http://www.websitegrader.com/ is a great free tool. It lets you see how you compare to other competing websites.

This is a free book on SEO. It is great and does work. http://www.seoelite.com/index1.htm

These all work well and are freebies. I used them and they brought out ranking up. There is no quick way to increase your ranking.

James J Moore
http://www.cutcompcosts.com

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13. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 11, 2007 10:32 PM
Search Engine Optimization is great, but this is only the beginning of the game.

What is the marketing strategies you've got?

Why people will buy from you once they are on your site?

What your competitors are doing?

Yes, there is more things, after the SEO to do.
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14. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 12, 2007 7:40 AM
in response to: NatOnline
I use Social Networking a LOT these days and I consider this part of the SEO jigsaw.

Breadcrumbs count
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15. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 12, 2007 5:53 PM
in response to: david28078

That is a great point. Building a web site and just letting it be a biz card is out of style by many years. Blogging was good for a few years. Social Networking is the new frontier for now. We have just started into that area and it vast and profitable. Webinars are OK, but I have sat through some really awful ones lately.

James J Moore
http://www.cutcompcosts.com

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16. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 13, 2007 2:11 PM
in response to: CEOWASHINGTON
Can't beat a free plug ;) Please don't keep posting the same thing everywhere - go to the alt boards
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17. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 14, 2007 2:06 PM
What you should read before hiring a SEO company:

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35291
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18. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 14, 2007 2:25 PM
Go to:

http://www.vivisimo.com, This is a cpmany that provides 'velocity enterprise search'.
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19. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 14, 2007 3:52 PM
in response to: DomainDiva
Vivisimo is a cool meta search engine - I use it often for a "big picture" check up

I did use a few "automated ranking position" position progs a few years back but I swear they must annoy the search engines by taking up bandwidth so I stopped using these tools - one was even in Ukraine.

I do have a Google API key but I would recommend Clusty or Dogpile to check rankings for different phrase that way you aren't being underhanded or using up bandwidth on someone else's dime

Vivisimo is nice...
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20. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 14, 2007 5:42 PM
in response to: david28078
Vivisimo is the developer of clusty.
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21. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 14, 2007 6:20 PM
in response to: DomainDiva
I hate to say this Diva but I know :) Just don't want to sound "not in the know" Clusty is nice

David
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22. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 14, 2007 6:22 PM
in response to: DomainDiva
NatOnline is rock on pointing you to the Google advice on hiring an SEO... rather brilliant advice
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23. Re: Search Engine Optimization Oct 15, 2007 2:51 PM
in response to: david28078
Thanks David, I am happy to help.

One more tip on SEO from http://www.seomoz.org/dp/seo-sem-services *_overpriced in my opinion_<<br />I used the services of Lori in the past, and she is very good at it. She will tell you what you can optimize on *your site. *You just need to follow this link: http://www.loriswebs.com/analysis.html
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24. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 7, 2007 1:35 PM
Finding the right SEO involves research. The best place to start is http://www.searchengineland.com/ . Look around and see who's doing what. If you can, attend a conference on Search Engine Marketing. Go to classes, meet people, etc. Depending on the industry, this could be the most important part of your marketing.

And I agree that you should avoid the SEO software that's out there. Much of it will actually hurt you because the search engines will think that you're trying to spam or cheat them. Good luck!
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25. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 7, 2007 2:39 PM
With all the great answers that this question has received, have you tried
googling "Search Engine Optimization"
LUCKIEST
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26. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 7, 2007 7:34 PM
in response to: SilverDragon
To your question about "search engine gateways" all the search engines react slightly differently based on keyword density (and where the keywords are located) and text on a page. So Google likes page titles to be 6-8 words long while Yahoo likes them to be 5-7 for example.

Web Position http://www.webposition.com/ is software that helps optimize text on a page for particular circumstances such as search engine gateways. However, there are a lot better ways to spend your time than trying to optimize for each search engine (at least until you run out of other things to do) so your focus should be mostly on Google anyway and then you can come back and worry about the rest.
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27. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 7, 2007 8:32 PM
Hi! I agree. SEO takes planning and much more. We do this for our clients. First you need to sit with the company or person you choose and explain your market segmentation to them. The more information they collect from you, you would have better results. Also monitor the changes everyday and make changes accordingly. Look out for your competition and what they do. Don't copy but change yours; uniquely to attract your client base. Good Luck. If you need more information contact me. I wouldn't worry too much of technical aspect but which search engines would bring more traffic to your business. A good SEO company knows the truth. Also you need to let them do a trial run to prove this to you. Keep in mind. This is not a technical thing. It's plain marketing done differently using technology.
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28. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 27, 2007 8:01 PM
Can anyone recommend an ethical, effective SEO company?

Well, since nobody else did I will. I used a company called webwisemedia.com out of Los Angeles.

They dove in and achieved the results I wanted for half the price of "Name Brand Companies" that charge thousands more.

I got 25 keywords for about 4k for the year and they guaranteed first page placement for 12 months and had everything in writing. I submitted my info, they researched everything, applied the code, have supplied and placed hundreds of links per month rather than the 7 links most companies offer, offered suggestions and made the changes to my web pages all for free. In all, about 60-70 days later I had first page placement in the natural results on yahoo, and google picked it up after 3 months. ROI, 3 months plus im out of the red.

Great company, small but great. They proved to me that they could rank up with the big boys for half the cost.
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29. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 28, 2007 9:53 AM
in response to: scsurfguy
Nice plug ;)
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30. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 28, 2007 9:59 AM
in response to: david28078
Web Position - very subjective....

I ask you this "How would you like a computer generated program querying your servers?"

It's like legal burglary in my mind

I know of so called SEO companies using differing programs to see what position they are on Google by querying Google's servers - do you guys who use/do not use these programs think that taking up Google et als bandwidth and constantly using precious server space are not annoying the server owners????

I own several of these programs but stopped using them about four years ago when I though this would be an issue with Google et al

These programs produce a fancy report - that's it.....
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31. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 28, 2007 2:59 PM
Lot of have been discussed here on the post. I agree with most of the stuff emagination and David have posted. SEO is an on going process and organic search results needs time, sometimes not just weeks, but months. It all depends what keywords one is promoting for and many other factors. SEO software's are most of the time are a piece of crap and should be avoided. No one can give you 100% guarantee on SEO results, if someone does it is just a trick that can work either way.
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32. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 28, 2007 4:19 PM
SEO is constantly changing. Which is when I was doing my research, instead of typing in search engine optimization, I typed in affordable search engine optimization. It was a little work, but I found a company (webwisemedia) and I put my faith in them. They did have guarantee's. Not for all of my keywords, but first page placement for my choice keywords is what they provided and thats what mattered. they promised a minimum of 25 first page placements and if they did not, they would refund my money. plain and simple. nobody can guarantee your keywords first page but, its a start to achieve first page placement for my general keywords which might take a year or two. and it was cheap, especially when i made all my money back in about 2 months.
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33. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 28, 2007 4:32 PM
in response to: scsurfguy
Haven't you pitched that before??? ;)
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34. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 28, 2007 5:54 PM
in response to: scsurfguy
I have already given my views on guarantee. I repeat that again, "if anyone give you 100% guarantee on SEO results, it is just a trick that can work either way". and you have been Lucky of those few for whom it worked!
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35. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 28, 2007 9:02 PM
in response to: Momentum
Sales pitch alert ;)
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36. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 30, 2007 11:00 AM
in response to: david28078
I think there are two different kinds of SEO site owners. The first one are site owners with no time to do that themself, and I think it is understandable, they give the job to SEO experts. The second are site owners taking the time to do their own SEO. SEO take times to understand, and are changing all the time.

After a few years doing SEO myself, I found the need to constantly bring something new to my e-commerce. I am always surprise to see compagnies offering guarantee on top ranking as SE changing Algos modifications everyday, and main algos change often anyway.

My advises for e-commerce owners thinking about SEO, are first READ all you can find on internet about SEO before hiring or doing that.

You will be confused because Coders will tell you to make you site hand coding for SEO, (that's not completely true), copywriters will tell you to do SEO articles ( I agree but becareful of the prices, some ask too much), SEO firms should be carefully checked (I don't use them), SEM (I don't use them, but I heard they are less efficient compare to SEO and much more expensive), etc...

Make no mistakes, no one can guarantee top placements, if they do, they lie to you.
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37. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 30, 2007 11:14 AM
in response to: NatOnline
So true!
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38. Re: Search Engine Optimization Nov 30, 2007 11:17 AM
in response to: david28078
I forgot to say I do SEO and Online Marketing and offer no guarantees. Never have never will

Good SEO is a mix of many, many things and one thing I always tell people (if they can't afford to spend too much) is to be proactive and do as I recommend as part of your strategy it works most of the time.

NO GUARANTEES!!!!!!!
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39. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 3, 2007 5:03 PM
in response to: david28078
Hello David,

Sincerebaskets (BoA forum) need some SEO, could you contact this person? the site is http://www.sincerebaskets.com/

Thanks
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40. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 3, 2007 11:42 PM
in response to: NatOnline
regarding the basket company that needs SEO - a few quick tips:

1. remove the google ads - they are promoting either adult materials or the competition (at least when I looked)
2. remove that ad at the bottom (submit your site to 3 million places - ANATHEMA of SEO
3. install an add-in for OSCommerce that creates SE friendly URLS for the products (yes, it's an OSCommerce site)

All the SEO in the world won't really help, as the site burns, even with the goggles on! It's like an ad campaign to get folks to visit a brick & mortar store, only to have the place look like a bomb hit it.

High cheese factor = low stick-around-and-buy traffic.

But remember, this web stuff is easy - anyone can do it, because we can all fingerpaint, right?
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41. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 4, 2007 9:29 AM
in response to: MTCreations
Will do Nat - Thank You.

Hey where's Kelley Style and her high ranking blog ;) #3 for one big key phrase :)
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42. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 4, 2007 9:32 AM
in response to: david28078
Anyone know of a Word Press designer?? I have a simple design job I may need doing.

Important points

Must have SEO Title Plug In

Threaded Conversations

David

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43. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 27, 2007 9:18 PM
in response to: david28078
Hi David,
Yep the bedrock of search engine integration is a consistent and sturdy website.
Cynthia
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44. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 29, 2007 9:21 AM

Following is a link to ‘*Web Marketing for Dummies*' - before you sign up with any SEO vendor - you should read this book fromm cover to cover. Published this year - it has very current information. My company, DalmoWorks.com is given credit for our search engine expertise and research which was used for Chapter 10 - "Mastering the Secrets of Search Engines") - it's an excellent resource for web marketing ideas as well.

Following is a link to Amazon.com where you can purchase the book online and have it sent to your home in a day or two...

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0470049820/ref=s9_asin_title_1/102-9049836-4608104?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=048SVN3KXPMYNPX0AE1K&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=279667201&pf_rd_i=507846

It's a $25 book that Amazon sells for $17. Well worth it.

Warm Regards,

J

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45. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 29, 2007 9:35 AM
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Just love those drive by posts/ads....

I would advise staying away from "Dummies" books and read a few up to the minute blogs instead.

I was quoted on Search Engine Watch last week with that same advice.

The Dummies books are old news - unless you are a carpenter or something......
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46. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 29, 2007 9:46 AM
in response to: david28078
David ,

I agree with you wholeheartedly (not about the 'ad' part as I get no royalties from the book). But with all due respect to your knowledge and expertise, for someone just starting out - the 'up to date' blogs are too 'fragmented' in their topics and can be confusing and contradictory.

A 'Dummies' book is a quick read - covers a lot of territory and helps a person just starting out on the subject to get a basic foundation of knowlege that will enable them to more quickly and efficiently research 'current' information on blogs that are relevent to their needs.

Just one persons opinion....

Warm Regards,

J.
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47. Re: Search Engine Optimization Dec 29, 2007 12:03 PM
in response to: webguy
:) Find those good blogs - not the one's by "famous seo or web folks" try the Tamar Weinberg or Vanessa Fox blogs.

Forget SE watch etc.
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48. Re: Search Engine Optimization Jan 2, 2008 12:44 PM
Yes, and they just went live with their site after months of preparation. It is http://www.bestpageranking.com . Good price and great service. I am one of the testimonials. They also have an affiliate program.
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49. Re: Search Engine Optimization Jan 2, 2008 3:08 PM
www.accupros.com They are affordable, knowledgeable, and effective.
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50. Re: Search Engine Optimization Jan 7, 2008 11:02 PM

Hey,

If you're looking for ethical and efficient SEO companies then look for threads like this one and you will see tons of companies out there
http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?threadid=8200

Your next step is how do you determine who is good and who fits your bill? So I would suggest you identify who you are? Whether Small/Medium/Enterprise business? What kind of budget you have? What kind of Products/Services you want to deliver? and this would nail down to few and then continue your search of identfying the real candidate who can do the job by checking their customer references and the sites they dealt with ...

It's very ciritcal you do your job right of finding the right company, coz that make a difference on the web. We deal with ERP softwares for small and medium bsuiness and optimize e-commerce websites (product based) and optimize the entire catalog and not just few keywords ...

I hope this answers your question.
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51. Re: Search Engine Optimization Jan 15, 2008 3:48 PM
My company utilizes simple Search Engine techniques that have placed me in the top 10 on page one with giants like Microsoft.

Completely Google "legal".

http://www.intechspecial.com
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52. Re: Search Engine Optimization Jan 15, 2008 5:55 PM
Kelly,

I can help you with your SEO campaigns. I work with several different vendors that I suggest based on your needs. Feel free to email me at heller21@hotmail.com so we can talk further about what you are looking for.

Mark
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53. Re: Search Engine Optimization Jan 17, 2008 5:51 PM
That will really depend on what you want to do. If you have you expectations in line with reality you can clean house with some basic DIY stuff.

But if you're trying to rank under a keyword like "the", you're going to be in a world of hurt.

Rule of thumb here is to stick to companies who will talk to you about all that.

Social Media is huge. Never forget that.

In fact, I just FTPed a page yesterday, did my SEO/SMO thing and I'm already #14 in Google.

Now, that's not the 1st page mind you, but when you do it the old school way you're locked in for months and months and months of waiting. I like faster results.

In another week I'll be in the top 5.

Here's what you need to know to ask intelligent questions:

#1: What have YOU (the SEO person) to prove you're the stuff?

#2: Can you explain to me in language I understand what all this stuff is about?

#3: Can you give me advice on what we should to kick start the party?

Here's what I mean by #3: if you have not run an adwords campaign yet you do not know what words are going to turn into $$$.

If you pick the wrong person/company they'll have you up in lights for your company name, which is exactly the thing you don't want. BUT it'll look cool.

Here, this is a video I put up the other day that'll help.

Would love to chat with you:
http://www.theguruassassin.com/small_business_web_site_design.htm
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54. Re: Search Engine Optimization Feb 5, 2008 10:21 PM
in response to: TGA000
You know, this is one area I really wish the Bank would provide some advice on. Bank of America seems to have tremendous expertise on search optimization. Do people feel like it woudl be valuable if they gave us access to all their internal experts and whateve companies they work with on search optimization so that we could get advice. I would love to see them do an event where we could get direct access via forums to top talent at the bank and outside who did their search optimization.
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55. Re: Search Engine Optimization Feb 13, 2008 6:07 PM
in response to: FCPainter
The bottom line is, if you have a bucket of gold you can accomplish anything, specially when it comes to SEO. Now, when you are considering SEO, make sure you have the right budget, because keywords that get search 30k times per day will cost you a few million dollars to compete with the big boys. Remember, this does not apply to all, each website/service/product is different thus making it affordable for all.

Best!
WS
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56. Re: Search Engine Optimization Mar 11, 2008 2:19 PM
in response to: websolutions
Has anyone used Website Pros? They just called me and said that for $90 per month they'd build a search optimized website and allow me to track how many calls I got from it. Seems like a good deal.
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57. Re: Search Engine Optimization Mar 11, 2008 2:27 PM
in response to: clnshirtz
@ clnshrtz

Those guys are scam artists. They are salesmen, and not the good kind. They know enough jargon to confuse the
average business owner, and convince them they need their services. They will probably take a little bit of that money,
and throw it at a Pay Per Click campaign. They'll keep the rest.

Decent SEO's will run you that much for an hour or two of their time. Your money will be much better spent with
them.
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58. Re: Search Engine Optimization Mar 11, 2008 2:34 PM
in response to: buybigtires
what's your domain name, let me see if I can give you some free advice.

WS
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