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19 Replies Last post: Nov 9, 2008 11:29 PM by intechspecial

Where should I go to have a web based application built??

Mar 14, 2008 3:39 PM

Click to view poloi3eai2's profile Professional poloi3eai2 9 posts since
Mar 14, 2008
I am in the process of starting up a music programming business. Pretty much providing music for retail stores. I want to have a custom web based application where I can create accounts for clients, set up a music library for them, and then they can pick the songs they like and create their own playlists or shuffle the library. Kind of like IMEEM. Where should I go to have a website like this built? and How much would it cost??
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1. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 14, 2008 8:57 PM
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Click to view jnarowski's profile Start-up jnarowski 1 posts since
Mar 16, 2008
2. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 16, 2008 4:39 PM
Finding the right company to develop your software can be a daunting task. My company specializes in custom web application development. We are experienced with agile development practices, and design our interfaces using the lastest in web technologies. Our website is www.metaspring.com. If you would like to know more, or get an estimate let me know.

Also if you would just like some pointers as to what you would want to look for, I would also be happy to provide that.

Good Luck
Click to view RongDesign's profile Mogul RongDesign 54 posts since
Jan 28, 2008
3. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 16, 2008 11:51 PM
in response to: jnarowski
I personally can't help you because my company doesn't go that far into media, but I can recommend posting your project on http://www.designquote.net/ and up to 8 (I think its 8, anyways) different designers till give you an ETA and a Quote. Then you get to choose which one you like. I use this site to find leads sometimes, so if you want the cheapest designer you can get, give www.designquote.net a try.

Thank You,
Dave Moore @
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Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
4. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 17, 2008 1:17 AM
in response to: RongDesign
I would like to comment on two things if I may.

First, I would like to say that the type of website development you are speaking of is not going to be inexpensive. The website will utlize the use of a database, and the cost attached to this type of work is expensive. I would not be able to help you with this directly, but could assist on a project management basis, so that you might find the best developers at the best rates.

Second, I would like to comment on the work of RongDesign. When you first came to this site, I thought to myself "ya right like he know what he is doing". You stated that nobody took you seriously because of your age. I think I even went to what I thought was your website, but I believe I typed in an extra letter in the address bar. The website that came up was under construction and was lacking. Later I came back and had noticed you had posted more, and were getting a good response. Being as that you are competition, I went back to your website, this time clicking on the link in your profile. After I visited you website I thought to myself "ya right like I know what I am talking about", as you work is outstanding! I do not like to admit this as you are competition to me, but I would be a fool not to. I am sure that your business will do quite well now and in the future, and your marketing approach to prelude your work with "no one takes me seriously because I am to young" was ingenius.

Welcome to the community RongDesign and the person that posted this.

Click to view RongDesign's profile Mogul RongDesign 54 posts since
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5. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 17, 2008 12:53 PM
in response to: intechspecial
Thank you for the good words. I would not see me as competition, our styles vary tremendously. If anything I would see you as a resource. I have reviewed your work and see you deal with projects I have never even considered as a potential client. And you have done them well. Now if I ever need advise, or have to pass on a project you seem open to, I have your contact information. With our styles, there is only the customers opinion that we have to consider.

Again, thank you for the compliment.
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
6. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 18, 2008 12:22 AM
in response to: RongDesign
RongDesign,

Thank you for your kind words as well. I would have to say that I would much appreciate the opportunity to work with you on any project, and would feel honored as well.
Click to view xenopod's profile Mogul xenopod 109 posts since
Dec 28, 2007
7. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 18, 2008 1:53 AM
There have been other threads asking similar questions, but your phrasing of the question makes repeating worthwhile.

You need to plan a well defined scope of what you want this web based app to do you may also need to make some decisions on how it needs to do it. Do you have a website? If so where is it hosted, and is the web based app to be on the same domain as your website?

If you need help scoping the project you should ask for some help on that. If you feel confident in your ability to effectively scope the project and are looking for a large number of bids you should look at sites like scriptlance.com elance.com and guru.com post your project on any or all of those sites and then read the bids you get. Whoever has the bid that is closest to what you specified and what you idealize your system to be and has the most favorable payment terms to you should be the one you select.

I have a web development firm that builds web apps so if you post scopes here or on any of the sites I mentioned I would appreciate the heads up so we may have the opportunity to bid on the project for the privledge to serve you on the project. I hope that helps let us know how you proceed!

Take care and good luck!

http://www.xenopodinc.com
Click to view websolutions's profile Mogul websolutions 191 posts since
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8. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 18, 2008 3:56 AM
Guys overall good feedback. One thing I would recommend is using Ruby on Rails to develop this app assuming you are wanting a web based app. You can go enterprise or a watered down version of itunes depending on your budget. Also, don't forget to get yourself a nice dedicated server with lots of bandwidth because you are going to need it. Another thing I would ask for is a flowchart from the developer (they will most likely charge you for the flowchart and then comp it when you sign up with them) either way it is worth it. In conjuction to the flowchart they should also give you a SWOT analysis so you know what can go happen.

In my mind here is what you need:

Interactive Web Interface
Database (mysql)
Custom Upload Tool (so that you can upload the mp3 files without using FTP client -- this is one more reason why you will need a dedicated server)
Music Management Admin (to manage uploaded files)
User Management Interface ( create, add, modify, remove, disable, allow/restrict access to certain categories)
Widget that can be embedded into a web site
Security so that your apps does not get easily hacked.

I sure there are more things you can do here.

I hope this helps.

Mike
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9. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 18, 2008 10:20 AM
Thanks for all the feedback it's helped me alot. I'm going to try those freelance bid websites. But I would preferably want someone local to me in VA. So I could sit down with them and contact them when I need updates or to fix any bugs. I could just set up an FTP network then have my clients download the files I upload to the FTP server. Then they load the playlists into Itunes. Pretty much I want a watered down version of Itunes online. I want a proprietary program that will keep clients in business with me. I think if I use Itunes my clients will eventually believe they can download their own songs and just use Itunes themselves. What do yall think? Should I go ahead and use Itunes or design my own proprietary software?
Click to view xenopod's profile Mogul xenopod 109 posts since
Dec 28, 2007
10. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 18, 2008 12:56 PM
in response to: poloi3eai2
No I don't believe the other poster was referring to using iTunes he was saying something with similar interface and functionality as iTunes. That other site you mentioned IMEEM uses a large database, XML, flash media players, and other scripting code to distribute and collect data between users and the system. Are you looking to literally clone this site for your subscriber base or was there something specific on this site that you were particularly interested in using? You mentioned music specifically so is it safe to presume you are not interested in video distribution? Are your end users the stores themselves or the shoppers at the stores? Have you developed your business plan yet as some of the information you would have written up in there would be good to know to fully scope out what your project would need and some best practices in getting the results needed.
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11. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 24, 2008 5:04 PM

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Click to view RobTaylor's profile Professional RobTaylor 4 posts since
Mar 24, 2008
12. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Mar 24, 2008 6:23 PM
Greetings

I would never take a project of that magnitude and bid it out on a Freelance Website. Never. The majority of projects posted on those Websites never get done right the first time. Taking something like that to the lowest bidder and assuming (evil word) that they know how to build it is a mistake that many make. A lot of people on there are trying to get paid to learn and will post experience that they simply do not have. By the time you figure all this out you will have probably paid (at least something) for it and you will end up paying for it again.

If you are serious about what you are doing then you want to find an experienced development company that you can truly rely on to do the development. Basically, what you need to do is start interviewing development companies.

Before you do that, you want to sit down and iron out all the details of the project from A to Z. Envision the home page and all the links (i.e. features) you need to have. Then describe what each section is supposed to do. Don't forget about behind the scenes things such as how you would like to manage members and your music from a private admin section.

Then you can start to approach some development firms about getting a quote. This will also help you to find someone you are comfortable working with. You also would want to find a company who has done media applications before. Although, the details right now are brief and how involved this will get is up in the air. But it sounds like it will be rather involved.

I hope you take this in to consideration and good luck with your business.

Rob
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 670 posts since
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13. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Apr 2, 2008 10:27 AM
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It is an excellent way to start in my opinion.
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14. Re: Where should I go to have a web based application built?? Apr 3, 2008 4:49 PM
My vote also goes to Elance.com and Guru.com. There are plenty of good companies as well as freelancers waiting to make a cut for your project. But be careful at the same as finding a quality provider is important even if it costs a little more. Take a look at feedback reviews and you will know whom to trust!
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