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19 Replies Last post: Apr 21, 2008 11:13 AM by brinat0318

Difficulty Obtaining Loan

Mar 11, 2008 3:24 PM

Click to view jbafi11's profile Professional jbafi11 5 posts since
Mar 11, 2008

I am trying to obtain a loan for some real estate investing that I will be doing with a partner. I have very good credit (over a 700); however, I can't seem to get credit from anyone because of the length of my accounts. I'm young (early 20's) and most lenders tell me I need to build more credit. It's extremely discouraging to see people out there getting offers who have low scores with a history of late payments. Any suggestions on how I can succeed in this kind of a situation? I'm certainly not willing to play the "waiting" game anymore :)

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Click to view Dereshki's profile Mogul Dereshki 44 posts since
Nov 29, 2007
1. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 11, 2008 3:41 PM
Hi
If you want a business loan, you can try with BofA. Do you have a Corp or it's personal credit? If you have a C or S corp it could be easer to obtain loan.
Click to view ccurtin's profile Professional ccurtin 4 posts since
Feb 29, 2008
2. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 11, 2008 4:49 PM

You have not given us enough information, but my guess is the problems are experience and/or cash flow. Read and understand the five "C's" of credit. Are your trying to do an SBA backed loan through the bank? What % are you putting down?

Good luck.
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3. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 11, 2008 5:18 PM
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Click to view SJCarpentry's profile Mogul SJCarpentry 30 posts since
Feb 6, 2008
4. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 11, 2008 5:22 PM
in response to: LUCKIEST
Since I have bought a few rental properties, let me tell you what's worked for us.

Sometimes it helps to be creative

1. in the way you approach the lender. First of all, are you going to a bank where both of you either have or could move a bunch of your personal accounts. Typically the banker can pressure the loan officer if he sees multiple sales on the horizon

2. Are you doing this on a secured or unsecured basis? Do you have a tenant with a good lease or not?

3. Have you considered a bridge loan initially secured by some personal assets?
Click to view jbafi11's profile Professional jbafi11 5 posts since
Mar 11, 2008
5. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 12, 2008 10:04 AM
It's hard to obtain anything secure because I do not own property yet. I've established an LLC, but there is only so much I can do right now until I can find a lender who will enable me to get out there and find good deals. I have already found a few that I would love to get my hands on. I'm hoping I dont have to wait around...I've been trying to establish credit for a few years now, but since I'm young, it seems to be a never-ending waiting game.
Click to view K4Lic0's profile Start-up K4Lic0 1 posts since
Mar 12, 2008
6. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 12, 2008 11:10 AM
How much are you trying to get? Could that be the problem?
Click to view jbafi11's profile Professional jbafi11 5 posts since
Mar 11, 2008
7. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 12, 2008 12:26 PM

$50k+, but I can't even get approved for $30k.
Click to view Dereshki's profile Mogul Dereshki 44 posts since
Nov 29, 2007
8. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 12, 2008 2:39 PM
in response to: jbafi11
The lender looking if your LLC is serious Corp or not. You must show them that. You must have for exemple a land line phone number. Registred in 411.com website. Many thing like this. If you lookup on http://www.dnb.com/us/ you can see if you are registred there. Your LLC must be compliant. It had a loat of thing befor some body give you money. Remember if you are the lender, you will give the money to a corp who had nothing serious or not a solid foundation.
Click to view BarryMBroker's profile Authority BarryMBroker 10 posts since
Mar 13, 2008
9. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 18, 2008 1:56 AM

Qualifying for a real estate loan especially as an investment is not only a function of your credit score. There are a lot of other factors that come into play. There are variety of underwriting guidelines. I am a broker in California and can fill you in with what general preparation steps you should take given that you let me know what kind of projects you are looking at.
Click to view jbafi11's profile Professional jbafi11 5 posts since
Mar 11, 2008
10. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 18, 2008 10:42 AM
in response to: BarryMBroker
That would be great. I would really appreciate that. I would like to invest in single family homes-- to start. I am in Orlando and there is an overwhelming amount of opportunity here right now. I can scoop up some amazing deals.
Click to view BarryMBroker's profile Authority BarryMBroker 10 posts since
Mar 13, 2008
11. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 18, 2008 12:46 PM
in response to: jbafi11
From all your posts, I gather that you want to jump on the bandwagon prematurely. For investment purposes, even seasoned investors need to have a good amount of downpayment and solid credit and income history. The kind of deals you are talking about, are not only in Florida. They are available in all the other states. However, the credit market is tight and not everybody can qualify for a mortgage loan. Most important on the list is employment/income histroy which requires a good 2 years of stability. And if you have that, you need to consider buying your own first real estate property. And if you don't, you really need to work on it. There is no magic formula. Your interest in real estate investing is admirable but you just may be ahead of yourself. You may like to partner with others who may be considered more qualified borrowers and start from there and also consult with the local real estate brokers. Good luck.
Click to view M1S96F1's profile Authority M1S96F1 10 posts since
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12. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 26, 2008 2:26 PM
I am a little confused in regards to your post. Are there properties which you have already gone into contract with or at the very least some type of option or binder. No lender is going to give you a loan to go out and look for deals. The only possible product is something called a wharehouse line of credit or something similar called a blanket mortgage. However, in both cases you have to put some of your own money into the line. Also, they are only used for income producing properties. If there is a property that you have in mind, you may be able to get what is typically called a "hard money loan". However, these loans typically carry higher interest rates, higher points and lower LTV's than your typical bank loan. However, considering your limited credit history, you may have no choice. Remember, these type of loans are short term and then are typically refinanced. At that point, your credit history may be better and you will be able to apply at a standard bank. I hope this information helps.
Click to view jbafi11's profile Professional jbafi11 5 posts since
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13. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 26, 2008 3:40 PM
in response to: M1S96F1
Yes, but the problem is finding a hard money lender.
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14. Re: Difficulty Obtaining Loan Mar 28, 2008 6:49 PM
in response to: jbafi11
From some of the posts that I read, it appears that your looking for $50K, I may be able to get you a line of credit since your credit score is so high. I would need to know your income. How old is the LLC. Go to my website www.msfcapitaladvisors.com and let's communicate through the website.
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