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Finding the right credit card processing service

Jul 30, 2007 7:23 PM

Click to view akgold's profile Founders akgold 51 posts since
Jul 19, 2007
I am in the process of setting up an eCommerce website. Does anyone know of the cheapest options for credit card processing?
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Click to view FashionGal's profile Founders FashionGal 32 posts since
Jul 29, 2007
1. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Jul 30, 2007 10:18 PM
I've heard of the company CyberSource. I don't know if they are the cheapest, but they are popular.
Click to view WhiteBrow's profile Founders WhiteBrow 21 posts since
Jul 21, 2007
2. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Aug 1, 2007 10:05 AM
Rather than focusing on cost alone, have you also considered other factors? Such as the type of cards it needs to accept - Mastercard, Visa, American Express, etc. I don't think all card processing service packages accept American Express for example. Also, consider the type of verification tools available to prevent fraud. I think that's really important to consider for an eCommerce website. Also, different services may come with different types of reporting and general account management. Good luck!
Click to view gmonkey's profile Founders gmonkey 15 posts since
Jul 21, 2007
3. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Aug 8, 2007 1:08 AM
Always be careful how you define "cheapest" when it comes to merchant card processing. Look out for fees, and look out for a lot of them!

Typically, most people just focus in on the discount rate, that is the percentage that you pay on a transaction. A typical dicount rate is between 1.5% and 4.5%, depending on the type of industry you are in. HOW you accept the card is important too...via phone, fax, internet, in person swipe, etc... Each can create a surcharge for your transaction. Also, PINned transactions tend to be cheaper that straight foward card transactions, but almost always include a per transaction fee.

Get the bottom line first before signing on the dotted line!
Click to view paulasfriend's profile Start-up paulasfriend 1 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
4. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 10, 2007 12:23 PM
any luck with your search? we have a similar need
Click to view Lighthouse24's profile Founders Lighthouse24 2,402 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
5. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 10, 2007 5:20 PM

For someone who is just getting started with eCommerce, plan to make this decision at least twice -- once today, and then again in about two years.


Even with prior experience and careful planning, your expansion into on-line sales will probably hold many surprises. It will take at least a year to know your typical transaction volume and amounts, and to learn what services, features, and reports are useful to you. By that time, you will have a sales history that allows you get lower rates.

Initially, the more important factors (than cost) are to get up and running quickly, and to work with a trusted financial entity. Begin with a secure "merchant services" solution that is easy to integrate into your business and website. Bank of America and PayPal each offer readily available options (there are others, but I have used these two). Both allow you to link your customers to a secure website to enter personal and credit card information (so you never see it, and don't have to worry about protecting it). They process the charge, deduct their fee, and place the rest in your account.


The bank offers unbeatable security for you, plus most of your customers will trust the bank (some may not trust PayPal). PayPal is by far the faster and easier way to get started, customers can use any credit card (they don't need a PayPal account), and you can literally set it up and be accepting credit cards in about thirty minutes. Yes, the fees for either option can be high (about 3 percent), but you can shop later for providers who offer the specific services you want at a lower fee.

Whatever solution you choose:
1. If you are working with an entity other than a U.S. bank, your account balance may be uninsured -- so confirm that there is a simple way to transfer funds into your insured business account, and do so periodically.
2. Verify that you can provide your customers with the same credit card security that you expect. Paying an extra half-percent is much better than learning that purchases from your business or website were the common thread in an identify theft.

Click to view Trojan2424's profile Start-up Trojan2424 3 posts since
Oct 11, 2007
6. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 11, 2007 8:39 PM
dirty little secret is that all card processors are charged the same fees by Visa and MC...they simply mark it up and tack on additional fees that are connected with processing. call anyone and grind em down.
Click to view smithw6079's profile Start-up smithw6079 5 posts since
Oct 11, 2007
7. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 11, 2007 10:17 PM
You may want to check out these merchant accounts: paypal.com and samsclub.com have great low rates.
Click to view GasisaRipoff's profile Professional GasisaRipoff 18 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
8. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 11, 2007 10:34 PM

Paypal is the best for start-ups.

This is another good one. http://www.oscommerce.com/ This is an open source freebie.


James J Moore

http://www.cutcompcosts.com

Click to view NanoSafeguard's profile Start-up NanoSafeguard 1 posts since
Oct 12, 2007
9. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 12, 2007 6:04 PM
in response to: GasisaRipoff

I would say that it is also extremely important to find out what works with the website you have. If you use an open source shopping cart like oscommerce or zencart, make sure you talk to other people running these php driven sites and ask them for what works. I know that gateway from authorize.net and the bank of america merchant account was a perfect fit with zencart.

Kenneth

Small technology. Big effect http://www.NanoSafeguard.com
Click to view NatOnline's profile Mogul NatOnline 672 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
10. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 14, 2007 2:49 PM
I think when you start an e-commerce, you should go with Paypal. Then when your site is up and running for a while (1 or 2 years) you will have an idea of your customer preference payments.

I recently went with Authorize.net our gateway provider and Bank of America merchant account.

In the past some of our customers have paid with credit cards via Paypal. I think it was the time to give 2 options, so far people are starting to pay with our Authorize.net gateway provider.

Why authorize.net? because Authorize.net use two differents mode for our e-commerce system cart: AIM and SIM modes. The AIM mode give you the possibility to capture cards on your e-commerce, the SIM mode allow you to capture the credit cards on the Authorize.net secure site for your account.

I like very much the SIM mode because on the Authorize.net site they monitor security all the time and I think that give more confidence to customers to buy on our e-commerce.

Since we are in business on internet we take very seriously the security on our site. I had many hackers trying to get in with injection SQL code. I have many friends with online business and they experimented the same issue. This is why we secure all customers information with a 256 bits SSL on our e-commerce, so each time a customer put personal information, they are secure. By the way this is very fun to install a SSL ;-) I do that myself it cost me $27 per year, if you go with Geotrust SSL that's $200 certificat perhaps more if your hosting company install it.

Keep in mind, less money you spend high branded tools, more money you can use to advertise ;-)

Good luck
Click to view evalsinca's profile Start-up evalsinca 4 posts since
Oct 14, 2007
11. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 15, 2007 12:02 AM
I echo the comments of many on this board. While the solution you choose will depend on your particular situation, here is what I found when I had to choose a merchant account + payment gateway a while back.

Here are the questions you should answer as you get started:

a) Do you want the transaction to execute on your site? Or, are you OK with the transaction completing on a 3rd party site? If the latter is OK with you, Google Checkout may be your best bet. Fees are very low (2%) and you get credit for your AdWords account.

b) If you want the transactions to execute on your site, you definitely need a merchant account. There are many providers out there. However, you may want to look around. Ask for all fees. The fee they mention when they sign you up (say) 2.12% is for "qualified" cards. You should ask what the fees are for "mid-qualified" or "non-qualified" cards. These will be much higher: typically 2.5% to 3.5%. International cards are a completely different thing...I hear the fees can be as high as 5-6%.

When I did my research, I was initially swayed towards Nova (Costco's preferred partner). Then you read about them at epinions.com and you find that they are terrible. So I stayed away from them.

The cheapest merchant account I have been able to find (for a beginning ecommerce provider) was at Chase Paymentech. If you use Microsoft Accounting 2007, you can sign up from within the software or else call them and ask for similar rates. The rates I remember were like 1.75% for qualified up to 2.5% for non-qualified, $0.15 for transaction fee, $10 minimum per month. These are for Visa/MC.

You also need either a payment gateway or else you need software to handle to handle the payments. Authorize.net charges $20 per month, $99 setup fee and $0.10 per transaction. You can also use software to connect to the payment processor directly, if you are knowledgeable about programming.

Another alternative for those that are cost conscious: Write your ecommerce software to work with the payment processor directly using libraries from nsoftware and other providers. More work is involved, but it is simple, and you pay a one-time cost for development but save the ongoing cost of monthly fees.

Oh one more point: Read the fine print you get from your bank when you open your merchant account. You get poor rates if you do not do CVV/CVV2 (though you are not allowed to store it which means you are out of luck if you want to do recurring payments, for example), you need to submit address/zip, though there is no guarantee that your payment processor will use it.
Click to view score81's profile SCORE score81 76 posts since
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12. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 14, 2007 9:41 PM

There are following need to be kept in mind

  1. How many transaction you will be doing each day/month/ year?
  2. What will be each transaction cost?
  3. Is monthly payment is better then each transaction cost?
  4. Should long term agreement is better then short term agreement.
  5. Start try less expensive company like pay pal and then change as you expand business.
Click to view saj777's profile Start-up saj777 1 posts since
Oct 17, 2007
13. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 17, 2007 6:58 AM
Somewhat related to this question is setting up "Automated Recurring Billing". Examples: collection of rent, dues for athletic clubs. etc.
The ideal in this case is to avoid credit card transaction fees, and use direct debit billing as an alternative. I would echo the advice of other commentators and start with a provider that appears stable. I have had a good experience so far with PaySimple.com. Authorize.net appears to be another candidate. Bank of America merchant services is a possible solution (electronic invoicing), but customers must respond to the invoice in order to initiate the debit.
Click to view DomainDiva's profile Founders DomainDiva 1,763 posts since
Oct 10, 2007
14. Re: Finding the right credit card processing service Oct 17, 2007 10:28 AM
We will be using cc processing sometime next year. Right now I am in discussions with my bank, I have all of my personal as well as business account(s) with them and prefer to keep everything financial in one basket if it's cost effective.

Fees are not written in stone and depending on the amount processed, discounts may be in order. Also your bank may process on a sliding or pro rated scale for you. Never hurts to meet with your banker and find out.
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