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Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips

Jan 8, 2008 10:47 PM

Click to view FCPainter's profile Mogul FCPainter 83 posts since
Jan 8, 2008
My business is a large residential painting company in the Northeast. Last year, our 200K piece DM campaign was the worst ever. We're now getting only a few hundred leads a year from the direct mail. We have a nice flow of word of mouth referrals, but need to figure out how to replace the leads we no longer see through the direct mail. Does anyone have good success stories of other ways to get leads?
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1. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 12:55 AM
Happy New Year!

FCPainter, I found that know matter what type of business you own or what hobby you have. The basic "public" want to revert to a website for references. (Easy to bookmark) Such as; a homepage for general or contact info, and some blog of updated info about your daily activities and company progress. This could also include graphs of statistics ...etc... With that stated; websites are easy and dirt cheap to construct anymore. Just my input?

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Oct 10, 2007
2. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 1:27 AM

I think a good direct mail piece is still effective -- provided it gets delivered! I was seeing a similar trend to what you're reporting a year ago -- so in the last campaign I injected the list with 200 valid test addresses where receipt/delivery would be logged and verified. 44 of those 200 pieces (22 percent) never arrived. Whether the DM firm never mailed them or the USPS "lost" them is still uncertain, but after adjusting the total campaign downward by that percentage, the response rate was actually slightly better than the "old days." I'm not sure that knowing that makes it any less frustrating, however!
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3. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 8:18 AM
Painter, I agree with you and Lighthouse great answer. Direct mail is getting more expense and less effective.
I can tell you about my success story and at the same time give you another idea.
A phone call campaign (almost like telemarketing but a little less).
You have a nice flow of word of mouth referrals. Now expand that by phone calls.
Back in the 80's I had a small accounting and tax practice in Bergen county, N J. I brought in a semi-telemarketer
who succeeded ingetting a lot of new clients and also changed my life around. It was more fun to talk to people
than do Accounting. Eventually I sold me accounting practice and still talk to people.
LUCKIEST
Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
4. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 9:48 AM
in response to: LUCKIEST

Seeing as you have such a beautiful website, how about an opt-in form for your website.

A visitor signs up, and are added to you email list.

You then send emails, and can track the results of your campaign.

You will know when they opened up the email, when they clicked on a link in the email, and if they purchased a product through the email.

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Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
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5. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 10:04 AM
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You can integrate you company logo, offer tips and support, or just a company newsletter!

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Click to view intechspecial's profile Mogul intechspecial 1,457 posts since
Jan 6, 2008
6. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 10:06 AM
in response to: intechspecial

Emails can be custom designed, or you can use templates.

You do not have to be a designer to offer professional quality emails!

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Click to view Iwrite's profile Mogul Iwrite 1,100 posts since
Dec 29, 2007
7. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 10:14 AM
FC, you have gotten some great advice. Have you tried radio along with interactive? You could do an email campaign that could either be a newsletter or a flyer like email. You could use radio to position yourself as the authority on residential painting with tips and helpful advice. These have worked for my clients in the past.

I would be interested in knowing what your direct mail piece looked like. I think there could be problems with your list and delivery as previously mentioned.

I hope that helped.
Click to view FCPainter's profile Mogul FCPainter 83 posts since
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8. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 11:34 AM
in response to: Iwrite
These are all great pieces of advice. I am going to prioritize checking up on whether the pieces are being delivered and running a telemarketing test. I'll see how that goes and get back to the group
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9. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 11:38 AM
in response to: FCPainter
Painter, Sounds like a good move. Let me know if now need help with running a telemarketing test.
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10. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 1:05 PM
in response to: FCPainter
FC,

I also have a large-scale Direct Mail Firm as a client that may be able to assist you.
They can review your current campaign and help you come up with ideas for better results.
I have many clients that have had a lot of success with them.

Regards,
CC08
Click to view Rob Marketing's profile Professional Rob Marketing 8 posts since
Jan 9, 2008
11. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 9, 2008 9:48 PM
in response to: CorpCons08
I feel that Direct Mail is dead unless you have a targeted
list that you are sending out to, or having a company send out to as well. Think about who you want to target. Get into high end neighborhoods and do a Door
Hanger campaign. Door Hanger campaigns can
be done cheaper than direct mail because of the rising postage rates.

I design small Door Hanger campaigns for some of my clients
and they love it. eMail me if you would like
to know more/

As far as the idea of everything not being delivered; we
work with a national distributor that has been a client and friend of mine for
years.

Think about it. What do
you do with the junk you receive in the mail?
The whole pile usually goes in the trash? With a Door Hanger campaign you can target
EXACT houses and communities you want to do business in, your ad doesn't have
to conform to Postal Service guidelines and if you ad is eye-catching the
potential customer will have no choice but to at least give it a read.

Typical Direct mail response for residential delivery ~1.5-2%

Typical targeted Door Hanger campaign response ~3.5-5%

I found these numbers by doing some research before I offered
this service to my customers. I do not
know how accurate it is, but my customers have seen a better response working with
Door Hangers rather than Direct Mail.

Rob Milburn
Pier Marketing
Click to view faiths13's profile Start-up faiths13 3 posts since
Jan 10, 2008
12. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 10, 2008 1:28 AM
I agree that the public wants a good website to look at. When I am looking into something i always go to the internet first. There are many different places where you can get a free or inexpensive web site going! They are very easy to do as well. Also, you can try posting ads in local community papers. We have one in my community that is about $20 per month. Not to mention flyers, handing out business cards to everyone you meet. Hope that helps!


Beth
Virtual Office Express
Businss Solutions for a Busy World

Click to view CorpCons08's profile Mogul CorpCons08 1,128 posts since
Nov 14, 2007
13. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 10, 2008 1:32 AM
in response to: faiths13
Very nicely done faiths13. Since that is your first post, let me also welcome you to the Bank of America Small Business Online Community. (long name)

CC08
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Jan 10, 2008
14. Re: Direct Mail not working anymore - any tips Jan 10, 2008 9:18 PM

FC-
I recently came out of Broadcast TV Sales Mgt to start my own gig consulting small businesses on advertising and marketing. One of the biggest issues with Direct Mail is the generally poor response rate, generally less than 3%, some research shows as low as 1/10th of 1%! I'd agree with some of the others that the web is important, but the web is a resource and not a substitute for true mass market advertising. Television and radio remain the two strongest forms to convey a message, TV the hands down most effective. I didn't catch what city you live in, however, I can assure you that redirecting that $200k into a TV campaign in virtually any market (less Top 10) will get you visibility that DM can't possibly achieve. If you are in a Top 10 market, local cable, while still expensive, is very targeted and can still accomplish more than any mail drop. Lastly, I suggest you integrate a call-to-action in whatever you do. Mobile Marketing (my specialty) is an excellent means to take the call-to-action incentive of DM and combine it with branding of TV/Radio.

TV/Radio/Print Campaign: Text 'PAINT' to 12345 for 20% off
Text Response: Call xxx-xxx-xxxx, ref this text 2 get 20% off. 4 more r8 savings in ftr respond 'BRUSH'
Customers can make call then or later, phone number is on the text. Those who respond BRUSH are placed in a data base for access at a later point for a future incentive.

Beauty of Mobile Marketing is that you can assign a keyword (PAINT1, PAINT2, etc) for every medium you are advertsing in, thus allowing you to track the effectiveness of each ad, as well as making everything a call to action with an incentive. The database extends your media value for continuing client relations, could even use it to send out referral incentives...$50 gift certificate for each referral, pls fwd this message to a friend.


Bottom line: stop the Direct Mail, no President ever got elected using it. Look to TV & Radio and integrate text messaging to make sure you can measure the ROI.

Regards,
Eric Lazar
Image Architecture
www.imagearchitecture.com
312.203.4039

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